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Cross Grading ICCS To CCCS

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I want to send my ICCS coins to CCCS to get hard slabbed, but want CCCS to reference the ICCS grading, as:
ICCC Cert. #XXXX Grade: MS-63

Will they do that?

Does it make sense?

You then end up with a cross graded coin (ICCS/CCCS) which is appears to be good, and you get a better quality holder which is good. I really like the CCCS holders.

Colonial Arces are selling cross graded coins from ICCS , to CCCS, and back to ICCS; seems backwards to me.



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Dear Louis,

I hope things are going well, and that you had a good holiday break and new years!

I would like to have my ICCS coins cross graded and hard slabbed to CCCS.

So I have a couple of questions for you. So even just quick answers under the questions would suffice as I know you are probably a busy person.

1. If I send in my already graded ICCS coins could you have them regraded and hard slabbed and "reference the ICCS grade on the holder"?
For example: " ICCS cert. #:xxxxx, grade: MS64"
This is what ICCS is doing with some of your already graded CCCS coins, so can you do this as well, as I see no reason to have them sent back to ICCS. If so what conditions are there?




2. Do you have plans to include a photo "secure plus "idea, similar to PCGS where they take a photo of the coin for additional reference? I see this becoming more important in the future as the population reports will no doubt become the over populated reports. The only caveat I see are the coins being subject to high resolution photograph, so minor imperfections that would not normally been visible under 10X, are now easily seen, which may reflect lower grades. hmm



thanks and I appreciate your response.

kind regards,

Ed
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you had better make sure he knows NOT to remove the ICCS coin if he thinks the grade is lower... Make sure you let him know ONLY if the grade is same or higher.. other wise you will lose out....
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that's a good point!

See what he says. They may not do it at all, although I can't see why they wouldn't try and market those idea's here in Canada. I think the secure plus is an awesome idea, and I like just checking coins on ebay with better pictures on PCGS's website.

I think ICCS will loose market share in the future and I think crackout artists have messed with population reports.

I wonder how many coins have actually been double graded; or crossed with another TPG inflating the population., At some point population reports will be useless until a better way becomes main stream.
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There will always be discrepancies in any report ... As you said so many coins are being cracked our re submitted sometimes more than once... As far as I'm concerned they hold no real evidence other than what that certain TPG says..Will there ever be a way to have a 100% accurate report ? I doubt it...
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I did get a reply from Louis. Very quick! I have asked for permission to paste it in here.

I think that if a coin does get a digital signature that can be tracked, then eventually it could lead to an accurate population, as in the secure plus, 20 - 30 years from now! It could also change the grading as well. (which is probably not a bad thing)

I would like to see that from a TGP in Canada. Our high grade Canadian coins (silver) are rare in MS condition. IMO.

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