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Is This 1861 $2.5 Liberty A Type 1 Or A Type 2

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The pics are a tad small to be sure, but I'll give you a good pickup: with Type One the two upper arrows on the reverse touch; they are clearly separated with Type Two. The bottom arrow is very close to the CA in AMERICA with Type One, the distance being less than the thickness of the arrow shaft. Type Two's bottom arrow is noticeably more distant.
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Images courtesy of Heritage Auctions (ha.com).

Type One:

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Type Two:

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The arrows are all you need.
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Thanks ScacP and SsuperDdave, This helps me confirm the one I have from my ancestors. Let me look which one.
Great Coin! ScacP.
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Type Ones are pretty scarce for this year, and if you happen to have one in Mint State you've a pricey coin indeed.
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Aw Shucks, it is a type two. Still a nice AU 50.
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Mine looks like a Type 1, but the condition is probably just Fine. There's a place on the reverse near 1/2 where the design is very, very weak. I'm not sure how that would affect the grade and/or the value.
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Even from the small images, I had the impression of yours as a Type One. It'll still go at a premium to a Type Two.
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Thanks for all the helpful information.
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Here is a larger image of the reverse:

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That doesn't quite look right to me.
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Something about the reverse also looks odd to me
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Looks like it has either been beaten, was once used as jewelry and has had a mounting removed, or is not good. Pictures don't tell enough and the plastic of the 2X2 interfers.
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we took the coin out of the 2x2, and it weighed 62 grains,
which would be 4.016 grams.

is that about right?
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Nominal weight for this issue is 4.18g, or 64.5gr. That's about a 4% difference. If you're using something like a powder scale, the instrument is probably accurate enough to believe exact numbers but if not potential error has to be considered. As regards loss to wear, I'm going to leave it for those more knowledgeable of gold coinage.
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