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What is this?! I believe it says VOT VVV (perhaps some really bad Xs). The obverse seems to have very little legend left - unusually large, I believe it may be too small a flan for the legend to be on flan. This has been tagged onto another post before, but I want to know what this is! So it's got its own thread. Any leads are much appreciated.   Whoever it is, they're draped and cuirassed. a note --> All the 5th century coins you'll see me post have all come from a single uncleaned lot! £12 for 12 coins - I've already got a Marcian, a Hadrian, a leo I and a theodosius II! |
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Nobody can help here? If not, Ill enquire with Forvm and any 'experts' who will listen.
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I'd call it a cull.
You can try typng it on wildwinds. Good luck though.
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I don't think it's VVV, it would have been written as XV. It's probably XXX. The only emperor that comes to mind in this late period that had coins with XXX is Theodosius II.
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I think this could be earlier than the others in the batch. I also think its lost quite a bit of 'meat' from the rim. Pretty sure its Constantine.
I'm thinking VOT - XXX - Possibly an A below that?
I think I can see the later part of VOT, the XXX is clear but not particularly well engraved and I also think I see the A below.
Closest I can find.
Constantine I
CONSTAN-TINVS AVG
DN CONSTANTINI MAX AVG
VOT
XXX
A
CONSStar
Not listed in RIC
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echizento is correct, Theodosius II did produce these without the outer reverse legend, might be a better explanation than my 'loosing meat' thought.
Pics of these examples needed I think.
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JCMWorld - If these are you culls then boy oh boy - I would love access to your culls!
Echizento - Ill check on Theodosius II - hopefully find something.
Bobbyhelmet - its way too crude - and small - to be that early I'm afraid.
Another note - the wreath doesn't align with the text - what a lazy die engraver!
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Oops - didnt see your response Bobby!
And thanks guys, I believe thats correct - I hope so too, RIC gives it an R4! Same bust style too.
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Edited by bobbyhelmet
01/22/2013 5:04 pm
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Great - R4 if really without the V, and I see no evidence of this. What should I do with it, is the question. The wreath is a seperate style entirely to the example given and the text is rotated in the wreath - similarly, though, there is no mintmark.
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I'll post a pic of some of my culls from a lot of 80 mixed romans and greeks I picked up a week and a half ago. Some Greek Imperial and Greek I don't feel like puzzling over for hours. Into the cull box they go!
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isn't that your exact coin type 74 bottom of page?
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AN - It is indeed! No V variant of 74. Quite the little rarity, it seems. Rarest coin yet.
JCMWorld - Puzzling is part of the fun!
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A frustrating thing about 5th century is that even if you can read part of the coin, you rarely get the mint mark or the obverse legend to confirm absolutely what you hope you have. It is possible that the type was issued from several mints and no real way to assign each coin to each possibility. I believe this is why RIC X moved from the separation of coins by mint that we see in earlier volumes. There are just too many coins that will never be identified fully. What gets rough is when you realize a coin can be a better than average specimen and as ugly as sin all at the same time.
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Ill see if anything is around the Ex. I'm going to finish cleaning it in the nexzt few days, but I suppose anyting that might be an R4 shouldnt have Ren Wax applied unless I know 100% that its a permanent member of the collection.
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No Sign of the V, no sign of the mint mark but whats left of the Ex is smooth as you like.
Any ideas on what I should do with it?
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Posted 01/22/2013 4:40 pm
