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1/4 Real And Heller For Grading

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 Posted 01/27/2013  7:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
more from the family hoard..
first is a 1869A Honduras 1/4 real, the second a 1894 Austrian 1 heller. Both have either tape or glue, or something on them... so on top of grade how do I get this gunk off? Is acceptable acetone nail polish remover? or somethimg different?
anyways oppinions on grade and or value would be greatly appricated! thanks everyone! your all awesome!! I have NO IDEA how to grade foreign coins!

1869A Honuduras 1/4 real:
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1894 Austrian 1 Heller:
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 Posted 01/29/2013  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nobody? O well.. No big deal at all, Thanks anyways. I just hope everyone enjoyed seeing them, that's what its all about!
On a side note, I bought some pure acetone from Walmart, not nail polish stuff.. I figured that'd be better. When I read the ingredients on my fiancé's polish remover I wasn't impressed.. Vitamins, fragrance etc.. So the one I bought says nothing except acetone...
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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aren't you being rather impatient expecting an immediate answer ?

I'll stick my neck out and say GF for the 1/4 real, perhaps better for the reverse - difficult to tell with the gunk on it. I think acetone will be OK on it.

GF/VF for the 2 heller. I've had bad experiences with acetone on copper/bronze coins. I think it removes the patina and makes it look artificial.

It would be nice if you posted both the coins again with the gunk cleaned off.

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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry.. I didn't mean to sound impatient. I'm not... I'm in no rush, there not going anywere, lol. so again, sorry, I can see how it was taken as that. Like I said, I'm just happy to show them.
Thanks for your opinion, as I have no idea.. Lol. And will do, I'll post better pics once the gunk is off.
And also thanks for the heads up on the acetone on copper/bronze, again I had no idea, I've never used acetone on any coins so that's great to know..

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 Posted 01/30/2013  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1/4 reale is a nice coin, but looks to have adhesive stuck to it. I agree that an acetone dip would likely do it well. I'd grade it fine.

The 2 heller is missing significant detail. For instance, it is difficult to see that the eagle holds a scepter and a sword in its left talon. I'd grade it VG.
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Wish I was familiar enough to estimate grade on these.
Interesting about the 1/4 Real--was it minted in Paris--it looks very French
I checked, and turns out yeah--the "A" stands for Paris.
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Thanks guys! Ya, it's too bad the heller's missing detail, I love the design! Ya, an acetone dip is on the "to do" list, lol. Is there a way to clean the glue or whatever it is off of the helller? I don't want to impair it if acetone damages copper as Pertinax mentioned.
Wow, I didn't know it was minted in Paris either! That's interesting, I never would have guessed that! It seems as I learn something new about coins every day! I love it!
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 Posted 01/31/2013  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see snowman's point. On the other hand the tops of the sceptres are visible, and there's detail in some of the feathers which I wouldn't expect to see in VG. I can't see the end of the sceptre under the bird's left head and that's rather odd, I would expect it to be partially visible. Is this a variety ?

Even so, I think the obv is better than VG, so I would change my opinion to F.

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Several people suggested xylene - see https://goccf.com/t/129224 and that might work on the 2 heller.

I haven't tried it because I don't know where to buy xylene, or what it's called in the UK. I can buy a litre bottle but that's a lot of money and it might not be useful.
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