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English Medieval Hammered Penny - Dating Help?

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I have a cut Medieval Silver Penny and I was wondering if anyone could help establish a ruler or date for it. I know it is a "long Cross" variety, meaning sometime after 1250. I was thinking Edward I but I'm not sure.

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An Edward, probably Edward I, as his name is abbreviated EDW R[EX]' ANGL (you have from the W on), but Edward II, or maybe even III also possible.
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Nice picturetaking, by the way! And welcome!
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Thanks, is there any way to tell which of the Edwards it is?
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Not the easiest job for any Edward penny, but here's a website to that very purpose:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edward...ies%20P1.htm

Let us know what you come up with!
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Pretty certain it's Edward I; neither of the others seem to have used this inscription. Possibly Type 2 (1280) based on the abbreviation marks, but that's mostly a guess
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No, I think you're right! The wedge-shaped contraction marks are pretty suggestive. And the N's aren't reverse-barred, so that would make it 2a. No crown to rule out some later type with wedge-shaped marks, or a type 1d, but the drapery looks pretty close.
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I had bought this in a lot of broken pieces, and one of the other pieces is actually part of this one, revealing an L, maybe O for the mint. is this enough to establish that it was minted in London?

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The L would be followed by an I for the Lincoln mint; this is London, all right. I think anyone would have assumed this coin was cleaved into a halfpenny 700+ years ago. Goes to show how these long cross coins were physically designed to break along these axes for that purpose, even to the point of happening accidentally centuries later.
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