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Help With Pricing These Token / Pennys Please

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 Posted 02/07/2013  08:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dooly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all I have these two which are going up for sale and I cannot find much information on what to list them for

The first is a Tn 40 Crocker & hamilton Adelaide .. my Krause says XF $325 and UNC $600 .. but is an old copy and mine is graded AU 58 BN
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The second is a AU TN 141 New town toll R.Josephs which has been professionally conserved since this picture and is a much nicer looking coin now, it is listed as XF$140 and Unc $245
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cheers for the help
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after conservation
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 Posted 02/07/2013  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea on value, but that is one of the nicest B&A I've seen. Very nice job!
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Hey Dooly, a wonderful looking token, as I type this I sit less than 5ks from the original site in Port Adelaide. Also the home of the greatest Aussie Rules Footy club ever.! My great-great uncle was an M.P. for the seat of Port Adelaide approx 1890-1908 so he may have even met your token. Best Wishes with the sale.!
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For the most recent Krause catalogue pricing - which will probably be adequate if you're selling them in Britain - you can check the NGC World Coin database. Here is the Crocker & Hamilton, and here is the Josephs. Use the EF pricing on the first one; "AU58" on an American slab converts to EF in British and Australian catalogues. I know the guy that supplies Krause's Australian token prices, and he definitely uses Australian grading standards.

I like the Josephs tokens; the depiction of the actual premises on the token is unusual in the Australian series, and they are the only ones to name the colony "Van Diemen's Land" rather than "Tasmania".

Was NGC able to grade the Josephs afterwards? Unless your "before" pic makes the coin look much worse than it really was, I'd be surprised if a coin with verdigris that bad could receive a formal grade, no matter how good the conservation job. Did you use NCS, or a local conservator?
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"Use the EF pricing on the first one; "AU58" on an American slab converts to EF in British and Australian catalogues. I know the guy that supplies Krause's Australian token prices, and he definitely uses Australian grading standards.

I like the Josephs tokens; the depiction of the actual premises on the token is unusual in the Australian series, and they are the only ones to name the colony "Van Diemen's Land" rather than "Tasmania".

Was NGC able to grade the Josephs afterwards? Unless your "before" pic makes the coin look much worse than it really was, I'd be surprised if a coin with verdigris that bad could receive a formal grade, no matter how good the conservation job. Did you use NCS, or a local conservator?

cheers for the help & links .. they are actualy going on ebay and if they do not sell there .. a auction in London .. No that is what has set me a tizzy with the pricing Josephs did not grade (did not think it would but I had to get it stabilized) they did slab it and I am thinking of cracking it out to take some better pictures of it as it has come up so well I could just start that one at .99 and see where it lands"

as they have put onto the slab AU details which could be about XF in the NGC link you gave which was $300 but the dammage put me off putting a silly starting price .. I could do a best offer thing on them ?

ho hum its a funny old game this .. much easier to buy than sell I say
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