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What Happens To Gold And Silver Next? Look Out Below?

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 Posted 04/02/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Pt as in Platinum and no not Russia's financial markets--their supply of the element as well as their nickel supply. Many back and forth issues with them now and oh my, we depend on them for our 'shuttle' to the ISS!!
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 Posted 04/03/2014  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unless the Platinum Eagle collector versions completely bomb I would say its fair to say that demand for the metal in coin form is up. This year the mint reintroduced the Platinum bullion eagles which theyve sold 10k of so far for the 1 ounce coin. If sales stay strong it should end up being the 4th highest mintage for the bullion one ounce series. I dont see anyway it catches the first 3 years they did it though where two years sold over 50k of them and the other year was over 130k.

Hard to say how much of that is due to the novelty of it being back though, this is the first time since 2008 silver eagle demand has been low enough they felt comfortable launching the bullion version for the platinum ones.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HawkHybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
people who buy silver coins etc are not buying it as an investment
like in stocks. the most important difference here is that they will have
their coins regardless of the value of the coins.(with shares you
essentially lose your holdings should the company go bust) this means that
they can pass it on from one generation to the next should they not be
able to sell it above the price that they paid for it. in this sense, it
will always retain some value as the silver price will never reach 0.
I would buy coins on the way down as the I ask myself:
a, can I currently afford it?
b, is there a good reason for me to wait?

whilst I may from time to time get b, wrong, I usually don't
feel so bad if it had already dropped in price before I bought
it.

cheap and cheerful :)

HH

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 Posted 04/04/2014  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My most recent purchase in this domain is stock in AG.
This is a fine silver miner whose profits have increased in spite of falling silver prices. The stock is bargain priced right now and the price of silver I expect to go up.
I should double my money on this one over the next year or so
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 Posted 04/04/2014  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess you can think that but who knows with what silver and gold did this past yr. I kind of think as the previous poster stated. A store of value to hold. Some buy and sell for quick profit, some buy and hold as a store of value. Everyone thinks differently on this.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is approximately what I said a few days ago here too.
I trade in and out of the paper P Ms and use the profits to buy physical for the most part
I hold that for security.
See, one person can have more than one goal and method for working this corner of the market.
The point I was making a few days ago was that each person must understand his own goals and means. Then he is less likely to be disappointed.
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 Posted 04/05/2014  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Piffin,

I like your thinking!
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 Posted 04/07/2014  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t84s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of good info here. Thanks!
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 Posted 04/07/2014  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thoughts here guys-

first I want to apologize for not geting some charts up and updating what I Am seeing. Been very swamped. Again, I am sorry

Second, sloppy sloppy prie action. Nothing sticks for gold and silver, I dare say they go much lower from here based on the price action. I say forms a range, and will find resistance ahead once again. For sure gold and silver are not investments for now.

Someone mentioned the stock AG... stay way, its in a very strong downtrend. Its a dollar stock now, very high risk. There are much better strong silver miners than this name.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver and gold are getting hit hard today, down 0.46 and 22.40 respectively.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder what's up with the drop?
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 Posted 04/15/2014  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First my apologies for not updating here in a few weeks. Been extremely busy and just haven't had the time, haven't even really had time to do anything coin wise either.

Anyways, today was a big gap down for gold. Why? Who? What? I really dont know, don't care and really means nothing to me. Even if I ventured a guess as to "why" something does something, I wouldnt be able to make money money on it nor would I be right on the "why" part lol. I'll leave the "why" to talking heads. To me what guides me is the price action.

What I can say is the gap down today in gold and silver has been ugly and raises the possibilities for much lower prices. Lets turn to the charts for way to see what has happened.

As always, remember- charts dont tell us the future. They are only reference points, to give us clues as to what might happen. However, we always adhere to the immediate price action as that will always be right.

As I have been doing, I am keeping the charts super clean and easy to read and follow, just allowing price to paint the picture, we could talk moving/simple averages, bands, RSI, MACD, etc etc etc.. but again in the end, price will do what it wants to.

First up is a chart of our proxy SLV.



What-Happens-To-Gold-And-Silver-Next?-Look-Out-Below?

Notice the aqua arrow. Back in January it looked like Silver wanted to test its yearly lows. Instead of dipping lower, it reversed hard, pushing higher, with steady buying. On 2/14 it gapped higher and held the gap for two days, where it finally stopped moving higher.

So take a look at the upper aqua line and yellow line. We can see silver traded in a range, even fell back into the gap, but bounced several times. Eventually however, that gap was filled as silver went lower. Notice how many times, looking at the two green arrows, silver fell into the gap and finally broke into it.

From there silver broke through the gap and continued into a range. Today, we got a big gap down, and notice the red arrow to the far right. This is where we are at and are presented with several scenarios.

One scenario is a re-test of the January lows. The other is that is settles yet into another range before making its move. If the January low gives in, it raises the probability of even much lower prices in silver, perhaps even grinding its ways to testing its yearly lows. A test of the yearly lows would give in turn much lower silver prices.

Time will be needed to see which option we get. In either case tho, silver is not doing well, giving up its gains.

Now to gold, lets look at our proxy, GLD.



What-Happens-To-Gold-And-Silver-Next?-Look-Out-Below?

Gold had in January also been basing out, chopping around. It also broke out of the range, breaking higher, basing the aqua line, moving out higher. It then digested the move higher with a few weeks of chopping/basing action. Once again, it broke out higher, until it stopped, at the aqua line on the upper end. Two ranges developed here.

We can see after hitting that upper range, gold started moving lower, losing range one, going into range two, bouncing at the green arrow. Notice- the basing from back in January resulted in providing support for the decline, at least for a short time period.

So, once again, price has memory. Gold caught some of that support from back in January, ran up into the yellow line, and stopped. Why? Because again, price has memory. This time, the basing in price in February served as resistance, holding back price. For whatever reason, today, the sellers got out, rather than make any attempts to poke through and we got our morning gap down.

That brings us to todays gap down. Again we face some scenarios, and as always we need the element of time to clue us in. At this stage we could see another range develop, perhaps the January lows, when tested again, will serve as support.

The other scenario is we continue to drop- first through the lower aqua line, which are the January lows.

From there who knows, either gold makes some sort of choppy range or, if it gives up its January lows, then we can perhaps make the case for even lower lows in the price of gold.

There you have it, selling pressure is bringing silver and gold down. Do the yearly lows for both gold and silver loom next? Hard to say.... perhaps yes. OR we could just see more of this chop, ranges being formed that lead us no where.

One thing that is clear still is that gold and silver are not places right now to be investing it. There is just too much chopping around. It just isn't good to be place large chunks of money into an asset that 1- hasnt signaled that a floor is in 2- that shows any signs of wanting higher. We need more time.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm,, I think next time I do my update with charts I;ll do some big charts, didnt notice until now some of the bars get lost in the background.

In anycase, I wanted to say, if anyone had further questions about the price action, drop me a line and I;ll do my best to answer your question.
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 Posted 04/17/2014  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So after our gap down, we see that there was no snap back bounce,,, next week will be very very interesting to see what happens.

more later this weekend
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 Posted 04/19/2014  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HawkHybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
for those that's steadfast about the us $17T in debt :

US dollar dying as tensions over Ukraine heat up
Dublin-Ireland (Apr 19) The US dollar is losing its dominance on global trade amid spiraling tensions between Washington and Moscow over Ukraine, says an analyst.

In his Friday column for Press TV website, F. William Engdahl said Russia and leading trading countries are developing "alternatives to using the US dollar for their bilateral trade."

The analyst said the US government has been printing "money without limit, in order to rescue the bankrupt Wall Street banks with what the Federal Reserve calls Quantitative Easing."

"Washington's decision to go for the military coup in Ukraine [has]...isolated the power of US hegemony and opened the door for a genuine multipolar world where peaceful cooperation replaced military threats and sole superpower domination," Engdahl stated.

He said Washington's "foolish" imposition of sanctions on Russia over Crimea's secession from Ukraine "has forced Moscow to react by selling Gazprom bonds not in the dollar market but rather in the fast-emerging Chinese Yuan."

"The US has just shot itself in the foot," he wrote.

Citing a new report by the International Monetary Fund, Engdahl said there has been a "dramatic shift" from the "US dollar as reserve currency."

"The foolish [US President Barack] Obama sanctions threats against Moscow are simply accelerating the refocus of giant Russian companies like Gazprom and Norilsk Nickel to the huge Asian market," wrote the analyst.

He said following the "NATO-led Ukraine coup and ensuing crisis," other countries "are looking to lessen their dollar exposure."

The analyst said "stupid people" in the United States and NATO have failed to "think through or foresee the global consequences of their actions."


: whilst I won't be saying that what the analyst is saying is all completely true.
taking some measures as insurance 'just in case' would make people sleep more easily.

HH
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