A Couple Of Coins I Am Having Problems Identifying

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dooly Valued Member United Kingdom 348 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 12:16 pm Austrian state ? Report this Post to the Staff

CGCoins Pillar of the Community United States 797 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 12:29 pm Top is 1803 H German States Austria Kreutzer Bottom is 1800 A Austria 1/2 kruezer Report this Post to the Staff
dooly Valued Member United Kingdom 348 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 12:40 pm Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
CGCoins Pillar of the Community United States 797 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 12:44 pm Anytime, Glad to help! Awesome coins by the way! Love the older copper thats survived all these years Report this Post to the Staff
dooly Valued Member United Kingdom 348 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 12:48 pm Yep me to just a shame some daft spoon cleaned them a bit back Report this Post to the Staff
peteramadeus Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 5:31 pm Top one looks like German States - Further Austria - KM # 27 (Kreutzer) Second one looks like Austria - KM # 2108 (1/2 Kreuzer) Edited by peteramadeus 02/19/2013 10:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Enlil Pillar of the Community Australia 560 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 9:09 pm No top coin is Further Austria in southern Germany, which at various times included different areas. The territory was lost by Austria in 1805. Report this Post to the Staff
peteramadeus Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 02/19/2013 10:15 pm Ah you are right, I was looking at the top of the page all zoomed in which said Hamburg, didn't see Further Austria listed off screen. Report this Post to the Staff
austrokiwi Pillar of the Community 2087 Posts	Posted 02/20/2013 10:26 am Quote: Top is 1803 H German States Austria Kreutzer As I understand it Austria was never a German state. A coin dated 1803 would be an issue of the Holy Roman empire. I would equate calling pre 1805 Austrian coins as German state coins with referring to modern day American coins as Canadian! ( forgive my humour Please) 2nd Edit I just dragged my Krause CD Rom out and looked and saw to my horror that Guenzburg is listed under further Austria under German states. This is,IMHO, Extremely poor form on the part of Krause publications. Further Austria should have been placed under Austrian states. The references I would rely on in this case are: MÃ¼nzstatte GÃ¼nzburg 1764 -1805 by Franz Reissenauer ( properly spelt with a Scharfes "S") and Ã-sterreichischer MÃ¼nzprÃ¤gungen 1519-1938 by Miller zu Aichholz Quote: Top one looks like German States - Further Austria I have never heard of "Further Austria" Edit: Just worked it out I am much more familiar with "VorderÃ¶sterreich" LOL! Checking one of my Reference books I see "H" was the mint mark used by Guenzburg in 1803. And that top photo seems to show the Burgau arms ( but it is badly worn) Edited by austrokiwi 02/20/2013 11:11 am Report this Post to the Staff
dooly Valued Member United Kingdom 348 Posts	Posted 02/20/2013 12:13 pm no wonder I was having problems finding them LOL Report this Post to the Staff
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