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Edited by scousejay13
02/21/2013 10:30 am
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Whatever it is it isn't ancient. Someone has spelled the name Julius Caesar 'GVILIVS CAES'
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Rather than read it as "civ lius caes perpetvo", read it as "C IVLIVS CAES DICT PERPETVO" - Julis Caesar. I think you'll find the obverse letters are interpretable as "BRITANNIA" - Britain. Genuine coins of Julius Caesar are, rather understandably, both rare and expensive. A coin commemorating Julius Caesar's abortive attempt at invading southern England would be extremely rare and extremely valuable. Unfortunately, the only reference I could find to the existence of such a coin is this 1881 archived coin catalogue, and it's in somewhat garbled French. Google-translation of the last sentence of the paragraph in question (run a search on the page for the word "Britannia" to find it) reads, "According to affirmation of the Honourable Mr. H. Cohex this medal is false." It sounds to me like you've got a 19th century fantasy. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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thanks for that it does read like that I have many coins I electrolites this 1 last night it was filthy it looks real to me I am actually thinking this 1 is gold I am getting it tested with in the hour thanks for replys
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...it looks real to me I am actually thinking this 1 is gold...-scousejay13 That is just it, to a beginner, an "ancient Roman looking coin" looks real. Take on board what the information the very experienced members have given you. Brass does looks "like gold" but it is not. |
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yes its brass it was just golder than the rest of the brass 1s I had but I do think its real I am uploading more images could some1 giv me an idea of how much it is worth if it is real as it seems to be rare it weighs 18 grams and 30mm across
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Definitely false - bad design, big seem, described as false in an old catalogue. I tell you what though, if you hadnt of done that electrolysis it might have been worth something (victorian fantasy pieces is a popular area - an old fake of an old coin). I suggest burying it for a while to get its patina back (a lot of detail might be lost though).
And I also thought brass was gold when I started out!
But I must be clear - it is fake. Very much fake. Bust style is all wrong and the reverse design doesn't exist. The lettering is also off. But the rest of your brass pieces could be good (diamonds in the rough a lot of the time) - you should post those!
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where is the big seem I thought the seem is where 2 halfs stuck together but this dosnt have any seem around the perimeter and also y would some1 make a fake of a legend that didnt exist
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i am new to this I took my coins to northwest coins the other day and he said they all looked real and I have been looking at coins for a week online and this does look like its a nice 1 2 halfs definetly not been stuck together
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Not stuck together - a blip in the mould if you will.
Its common - it looked real because its actually old! Repatinate it and it will start looking real again. Its a lovely piece. Like this is doesn't have much value other than as a curio though.
And they used a fake design because caesar never minted this and they want it to seem really super rare and good looking - what brit could resist a coin commemorating the time when caesar failed (uhhh) to capture our glorious land?
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isn't THIS COIN MORE LIKELY TO SAY BRITANNICVS BRITANNICUS BRITANNICA RATHER THAN BRITANNIA I THINK SO
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Well, it's hard to say what a "real ancient coin" of this design ought to say, because this coin does not exist as a real ancient coin; Julius Caesar struck no Conquest of Britain commemoratives. "Britannia" was the Roman name for the island before they conquered it, and for the Imperial province on the island after they conquered it. This name appears as such on numerous genuine coins of the later emperors, such as this one of Hadrian. "Britannia" is the feminine form of the name, whereas "Britannicus" is masculine. Roman Provinces were all feminine gender in Latin - which is also why, when depicted on coins, their personifications are always female. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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