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 Posted 02/27/2013  12:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So a parcel came through the door containing 2 coins - an emperor I've been wanting for ages and an emperor I thought id never own!

You might recognise these coins from MonkeyBean's previous posts! A great thanks to him.

Heres the Allectus (same as mal posted in the last week!):
VIRTVS AVG - full legends, well centered - a lovely green patina (which has got me a bit worried so I'm keeping it in distilled water a bit - it looked a bit powdered on the surface so I'm playing it safe). I'm also cleaning this with a strict 'no sharp implements' rule. Soaking will be relied on to loosen the dirt so a Qtip can dislodge it.
The reverse shows something very key to british history - both roman and empire times. The Navy was important to Allectus to protect him from Rome coming and retrieving their territory - as it still is for the defence of our lovely island. You can see the lil' Britons in there! The quality and good preservation of this combined with its historical importance to my nation means it has a place with my favourites!

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And another, Valerian:
Very little silver remaining but the heavily debased antoninianus looks really cool - a kind of dirtied silver. The radiate crown and VALE are really nicely preserved! Perfect. The only roman emperor captured - by shapur - apparently then used as a footstool and after death he was stuffed and kept in a persian temple.

Believe it or not, with a light you can in fact read the reverse inscription. It reads VICTORIA AVGG. Really looks blank from the front and I only noticed whilst trying to find the reverse type - Victory left, resting on shield, holding palm.

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And a milestone has been reached - Allectus is officially important person 40 - Valerian is 41 and if I can get an ID on another coin I have (its pretty solid) then Trebonianus Gallus may be 42. On my way to 50! The longest period of roman history I have without an emperor is now 30 years - 222AD to 251AD.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have also sent coins to other CCF members, their costs were a self-addressed stamped envelope and a promise to not sell the coin/coins unless they split the profit.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no intent to sell it - but if the obverse comes out as well as the reverse came out for him then it could be worth a fair bit (a month or two of food in a city college) and my coin collection is subject to liquidation if I have any money woes at Uni. Of course, this would be a last resort kind of thing... Anyway, an agreement would be made and he'd certainly benefit - but again, a coin of this type would not be sold in a hurry and I have plenty of other options. This is going to the permanent collection as it were.
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I like the galley 'types' very much. Excluding partial views (ie prows) I have only one of Hadrian with a galley reverse. As far as the Empire went they always had a great reluctance fight wars on the sea. Very risky and subject to the whims of Poseidon ! Personally I am tempted to believe that just as the ranks of the western Legions were being filled with more than their share of 'Krauts'. The navy of the so-called "Saxon Shore" may well have been filled with Saxons. There is argument as to whether the term refers to the Saxon raiders or to the people already living there. I am inclined to accept the idea that immigration was slowly and permanently changing the Roman World demographically. Whether they were Brits or Saxons (or both) mixed with Romans who manned these ships is unclear. What is clear is that you have a very nice galley reverse !
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 Posted 02/27/2013  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really like that Allectus reverse.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse is beautiful - and its the side that would be displayed.

Im a bit worried about Allectus' cheek - the dirt has fallen off there and its very deep and I'm concerned that the dirt chipped off some of the patina leaving it a bit rougher than the rest. It will take a while to find out - thick dirt.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes we do have great members here. Good on ya MonkeyBean.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very cool...dig that ship!
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