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hey guys,
got my first chinese coin today, and it turned out being my first chinese coinS instead. the seller stated this in the description, but I missed it somehow.


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2 coins fused together. info that came with the coins says they were found in a river, so fused some some type of hard sediment or something. should I try and get them apart? stick them in olive oil and let the soak for a while?

also said one side: yung feng (1078-86), other side hung yu (1047-1054). I have no clue which is which, or even if I have the pictures right side up.
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Chris this is awesome, I have been seeing these posted for a while, I don't know anything about them but yours look good, I would soak them in some pure virgin olive oil, they'll come out clean..

last night at my club meeting I picked up 13 of these coins,there ming, I think 1600's to 1700's. these things aren't cheep, man I spent $100 on these 13 coins.. hope you mind posting on your thread..

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just kidding on the price... they were .50 cents..
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oh no, post away...those are very cool also. I have no idea what these things are worth, I paid 7 bucks for mine, have no clue if I over paid or not. just liked the color and wanted a chinese coin. if you didn't ad that kidding to the bottom I would have believed you!

man, I've got to get in on this club you belong to. any chance holding any meeting in illinois any time soon?

ok, I think i'll try the olive oil soak then.
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Try soaking them in some Hydrogen peroxide that may help break up the deposits. Those are nice coins.

Eng that's an excellent group also.
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ski, what is the hydrogen peroxide method? I'm kind of scared...

how long to dip them or soak them? (and do I use the over the counter stenght stuff?)
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Chris I would start with distilled water,just leave it for 5 days, i'll bet it will fall apart,if not leave it for another 5 days..so on..
we have a great group of all different collectors
One does bussness in GB and buys a lot of Greek, Romans and other things like these coins, he had about 500 to 600 of them, sold them all for $25, which he sold me those for .50cents..
I wish you could come to our meeting you be like a kid in a candy shop..
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Hydrogen peroxide is the stuff you buy in the drug store it is very mild but seems to work good on deposits. When you put the coin in it will start to bubble and you should see the deposits start to come off. Leave it in for a while. It doesn't hurt the coin so you doon't have to worry. You may have to do if several times before they seperate. You can also use distilled water, but it's going to take some time. I much rather use olive oil than distilled water, I've had better results with that. So you can try soaking it in olive oil also.
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Echizento: Does hydrogen peroxide work on roman bronze without ruining the patina? I've never heard of this but have some tough encrustations!

Thanks!
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I am not into Chinese coins particularly, but I too wanted a small selection just so that I have them represented in my collection.

BobbyHelmet sold me half a dozen coins very reasonably priced and with a selection of dates/patina's and variety. The one top middle made me choose this lot...



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As for your fused coin I would say you may as well try DW first and if that doesn't work move onto the olive oil... I hope it all works out :)
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David

I think these are pretty cool fused together chrsmat, I would leave them, its very unlikely the reverses have anything on them of interest, most of them are just smooth.

The coin in your first picture is the correct way up and is a Huang Song Tong Bao (Seal script) like this one:

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http://primaltrek.com/chinesecoins.html

During the years 1039-1054 of Emperor Ren Zong's reign, coins with the inscription huang song tong bao (皇宋e宝) were cast.
In this example, the inscription is read top to bottom and right to left.
The inscription is written in seal script and the coin has a flower hole.
The diameter is 25 mm and the weight is 3.5 grams.

Your 'second' coin is a Yuan Feng tong bao (2 cash?) of Emperor Shen Zong, again it is seal script, it was minted 1078-1085.
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thanks BH! I was hoping our chinese expert would chime in.
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