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1851 Libery Gold Dollar

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I have two questions, first is whether you think this coin is real? It weighs right at just under 1.7g and the measurements are right at 13mm x 1mm. Not sure if its improperly cleaned or what but doesn't quite look right. Local dealer thought the same but wasn't sure either way.

2nd question is grading (if real).

Thanks for your input.

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Something doesn't look right to me either. The details appear mushy. Two of the stars above the hair appear to have hollow centers which is a bad sign.
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If it IS real (which doesn't look likely), then it is most definatly harshly cleaned.

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The bust appears worn, but the rim is gem? The letters appear too bold on the reverse; the T in UNITED looks like it is touching the berry.
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This is why I will not buy gold pieces raw - from the pictures, this one would have fooled me. I compared it to other pictures online and would have guessed it was an authentic ex-jewelry piece. If you trust the dealer you took it to and feel the comments above are correct, then it is probably not real.
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Drsandman2 is right.
Lots of fakes of these exist, made in good quality gold, for jewelry purposes. The design detsils are quite soft, indicating a copy from a genuine coin.

I suspect that coins such as these were not necessarily made to deceive, but for honest jewelry purposes. I so doing a genuine gold dollar would have been saved from a rather rugged existence. By copying a genuine coin in good quality gold, there is no intention of defrauding a potential jewelry customer.

Because of their small size, such copies make for excellent inclusion in a jewelry design. The latter day coin collector was not considered.
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Does the bridge of Liberty's nose actually fall into the field? Or is it distinctly raised? I cannot tell from this photo.
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sel_60l's post reminded me that jewelers often "copied" the designs for their jewelry. Although coins like this are not government issue, it is very possible they contain gold. It maybe a lower karat. So, they are not completely worthless. There is an old post on here somewhere about it.
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