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New Member
Poland
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Hello, I am considering about sending my coin for PCGS grading, but wondering about wheather they would give me a grade or not. The reason is that the coin is damaged at rim on 2 places - as shown on the photos. Can someone tell me how are such coins treated by grader? Will it be given a grade? Will it be even packed? In my opinion it's generally UNC condition rare bronze "probe" coin (mintage 100 pcs) but damaged ...    |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I do not see that there is much of a need to have it TPG'ed in your case. It is self evident that it is a PROBA coin anyway. After it has been slabbed, it cannot be fully examined under a magnifying glass, and as such, could be more of a problem to a hypothetical buyer in Poland than it would be in the U.S. Even though I think that there is rim damage, that in fact may not be the case. It could have come ex Mint that way. It is obviously an experimental coin, and perhaps minting standards may not have necessarily required to have been perfect in this case, as a proof coin is required to be. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If PCGS believes it to be a damaged coin, they will keep your money and body-bag your coin.
IMHO, 99% of rim damage (flat spots) will display rim damage 180ยบ apart, and I do not see this on your coin. I see a flat rim at both K2 & K4 locations and no impact damage at K8 & K10 (clock rotation) and would recommend this coin be examined under a stereo microscope and check for tooling marks or blunt marks that would raise the rim from sudden impact.
I see no sign of rim damage from impact and would believe this coin was struck on a flawed planchet and left the mint as is.
Again, this is my opinion based on your photos only and not examining the coin in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
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If PCGS believes it to be a damaged coin, they will keep your money and body-bag your coin. Not true, if its a real coin theyll grade it as such and state the problem on a details label |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin kind of looks clipped to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think the coin is clipped which was a result of the minting process. I also agree with Broken-Coin that you should see some rim weakness or "damage" 180 degrees from the clip. I think it's there though. If you look on the Eagle side of the coin I can make out slight weakness of the rims on the side opposite the clip. I have a clipped coin that displays a similar pattern.
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New Member
 Poland
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Thank you for your replies. According to the 2 pictures I posted before it may really seem like a clipped coin, but in fact when examined closer it doesn't remind clipped planchet. In my opinion (I'm not an expert though...) it looks more like a tooled (?) rim. It probably could be damaged by somebody afret minting, but could it be also a result of minting process? Please take a look on the next 2 photos of the rim, I believe the damage (?) is visible much better. So, will PCGS describe it as a "rim damage"? Does it look like the coin can be described as UNC or AU?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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They look to me like rim damage. On a true clipped planchet I would expect to see vertical shear marks not lateral marks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yep, those last pics sealed it...it's damaged.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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My vote would be post mint damage as well.
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Posted 03/12/2013 12:06 pm
