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Unlisted Constantius II?

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 Posted 03/19/2013  3:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Heres one which I havent been able to find the exact match for on Wildwinds or Helveticas RIC lists.

There issue is the reverse legend break not matching with the mint mark - no where can I find a GLORI - AEXER - CITVS with a plain TRP mint mark. The portrait is youthful and the coin matches the style at Trier. All the similar triers are rated rare and the closest match is off on the legend breaks and is rated R4.

I hope this fella is unlisted - I need an R5!

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Its much nicer in hand but the patina is uneven and pretty unstable - this was takenf rom the culls from the lot I sold - chipped, even if none of the design was taken with the chip.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RIC VIII Trier 96?

Were you on the '1 standard' page on the HV spreadsheet?
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 Posted 03/19/2013  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahah, I bet I wasnt! Ill go check. I feel plenty silly now! Ah well.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Double check the 96, I wasn't 100%

I have a history of being on the wrong tab too ;)
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 Posted 03/19/2013  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was on the 2 standards bit but it doesn't make much of a difference - its still not listed.

You have the right combination on the reverse but this coin reads 'FL IVL CONSTANT-' on the obverse, so still no luck.
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 Posted 03/19/2013  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a crescent after the TRP.

RIC VIII Trier 101A

FL IVL CONSTANTIVS AVG
GLORI-A EXER-CITVS
TRP crescent
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 Posted 03/19/2013  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was my thinking too but I couldnt find any evidence of the cresent. I put some thin foil over and made an impression to give a better contrast and there is nothing but smoothness in the field - the TRP is also centered.

No cresent, no star - its just TRP.
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Wish there were a little better detail. I believe Bobby is correct that it's RIC VIII Trier 101a.
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I think its visible if your looking in the right place, its high, but I'm sure I see it.

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Its difficult - I'm torn, its really difficult to see anything on the coin but when I photograph the foil negative it does look like 101a. The coin itself looks blank - no lighting makes me see any cresent. BUt the negatives show a reaaally faint pretty malformed smudge which is definitely cresent like. I just find it odd that the rest of the mint mark survives so well defined but the cresent is effectively invisible.

For the moment it shall be labelled TRP Cresent but I'm not so sure...
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Ok, I busted out my copy of Vol. VIII and went to Page 144.
It looks to be a Trier 101a - the reverse break is in the right place (Reverse GE(b))and I can see a slight crescent and the little serifs on the end of it.
The obverse looks like Cs2 (FL IVL CONSTANTIVS AVG) which would put it at R1.
There are four obverse types listed for this mintmark, all are S, R1 or R2. Date is "After April 340"
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 Posted 03/31/2013  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks JCM - Happy easter to you too! Pretty nice to have a scarce/rare coin knocking about to hand about.
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