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Guess The Emperor, Caesar, Or Empress

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 Posted 06/23/2013  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dwayne8625 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The book is Earth's Children, I read very little around 15 years ago so I might be wrong but I was thinking it was around the black sea.
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Yes, that's the series! Clan of the Cave Bear (book 1 of the Earth's Children series) takes place in this exact region before it was the coin's kingdom. Here's the story's map:
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Otherwise irrelevant, but I just re-read the series and when I looked at the map of this kingdom, lo and behold. FYI, the movie was awful but the books are fantastic.

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 Posted 06/23/2013  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow...i have no idea who that could be. I don't think I've seen a bust like that before.


I've always thought about reading that book...but never got around to it....like about 5,280 other books I've wanted to read.
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Martin was very very close. It is from the Kingdom of Bosporus (shown in the map, 25,000 BC). Not Sauromates II but almost correct...

I didn't realize this one would be so hard. I hadn't seen this king or kingdom before but the coin in the picture is coming up for auction at a big US auction house. I figured it was not that uncommon, guess I was wrong about that.

I googled the king's name to see other coins of his and didn't find much. Didn't see another one like this.

Hope someone gets it soon, I prefer being a guesser
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 Posted 06/24/2013  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the reverse, with a little 'shopping.

A Bosporeo

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 Posted 06/24/2013  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about these coins. I have almost pulled the trigger on 1 or 2 but never did. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the book: movie never heard of it. I am going to guess Cotys I. If not him then, Rhomestacles.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No.

Again, Martin's guess was very close. It is impossible for his written guess to be any closer, hint hint.
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Sauromates I ?
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 Posted 06/24/2013  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes! Sauromates I.

It's a beauty. It's offered in the September Heritage Auction sale. The estimated value has not yet been listed-- bet it's high.

from http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...lotIdNo=1001

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KINGDOM OF THE BOSPORUS. Sauromates I (AD 93/4-123/4). AE 48 units (29mm, 10.84 gm, 12h). Diademed, draped bust of Sauromates left / Nike advancing left, holding wreath, flanked by mark of value M-H, all within wreath MacDonald 397/2. Dark gray patina. Nearly Extremely Fine.


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The Bosporan Kingdom (also known as the Kingdom of the Cimmerian Bosporus) was an ancient state located in eastern Crimea and the Taman Peninsula, on the shores of the Cimmerian Bosporus (now known as the Strait of Kerch). It was named after the Bosphorus, also known as Istanbul Strait, a different strait that divides Asia from Europe.
The Bosporan Kingdom was the longest surviving Roman client kingdom. It was a Roman province from 63 to 68, under Emperor Nero. The 1st and 2nd centuries BCE saw a period of renewed golden age of the Bosporan state. In the end of the 2nd century, the King Sauromates II inflicted a critical defeat to the Scyths and included all the territories of the Crimea in the structure of his state.
The prosperity of the Bosporan Kingdom was based on the export of wheat, fish and slaves.The profit of the trade supported a class whose conspicuous wealth is still visible from newly discovered archaeological finds, excavated, often illegally, from numerous burial barrows known as kurgans. The once-thriving cities of the Bosporan left extensive architectural and sculptural remains, while the kurgans continue to yield spectacular Greco-Sarmatian objects, the best examples of which are now preserved in the Hermitage in St. Petersburg. These include gold work, vases imported from Athens, coarse terracottas, textile fragments and specimens of carpentry and marquetry.
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Wow! that was a tough one that I would have never guessed. I haven't seen this coin type before, it would be interesting to see what it sells for.
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Ski- feel free to post a king in my place, strapped for time today. Thanks.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, For Anoob.



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 Posted 06/24/2013  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to run through the Julias again :)

Julia Paula?
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 Posted 06/24/2013  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea... Plautilla
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