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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I just got back from working away in the Bush and saw the PM prices had plummeted. Does anyone know what triggered this?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would love to hear a good rational explanantion myself one paragraph in simple terms lol....
Silver has never been this low or gold since I got into pmz a good three or four years ago as I cant remember now lol....
Something big in the world is up, something fishy....
My first gut thought was the chess pieces are moving toward North Korea but war fronts are common in many countrys and places, it must be something more then the threat of war....
Edited by Silverhawk74 04/15/2013 6:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2480 Posts |
I don't know but I happily purchased some bullion today :)
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
7096 Posts |
I just read that article. It seems like the "Paper" traders ( I call this Fiat gold and Fiat Silver) Have sold off 400 tonnes of gold that doesn't actually exist and have forced the price down  What the heck is going on? I always thought that PM's were a hedge against the Fiat money that is freely printed without any real value and now we have FIAT PM's. Looks like the Rats have gotten into the larder and it may be time to get some "Pest Control" organised 
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Valued Member
United States
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Its all part of the bailout package. If all these hedge funds were long gold and silver the banks were on the other side of the trade. They have to cover eventually. So it boils down to a war of attrition. Who has the cash and who is the joker who is 1500% long on margin. Someone will be selling theirr gold on the cheap to the bank, and it won't be the joker, he was liquidated days ago, it will be some poor slob who owns his physical free and clear. This is how hypothecated markets trade and then you add cheap money and high leverage. The stock market works the same way. Gold will trade much higher as this type of voitility kills business. Many mining companies have dificulty making money at 1600 gold.
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote: I would love to hear a good rational explanantion myself one paragraph in simple terms lol....
I'll do better and give you one word: Fear
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Valued Member
United States
329 Posts |
"I always thought that PM's were a hedge against the Fiat money that is freely printed"
Its a hedge against default. Currencies are backed by debt. Everything the Fed does it does to make the debt look more attractive. They and the banks they operate through are sitting on piles and piles of crap mostly in the form of debt securites and equities. All this junk has to be sold to the public. CBs know if they dump gold in unison they can encourage risk taking on a global scale. Don't buy the hype on the way up or down.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Like a plane crash there are lots of contributing factors to a PM crash. Here are three: 1. Lower than expected growth in the Chinese economy 2. Lower commodity prices generally 3. Mob mentality.
Feel free to add your own, preferably in dot form. We all like 'nutshell' answers.
There is often a fall in most markets after a price peak. Often happens in the opposite direction, if a market falls too quickly. Why should PM's be different?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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JP Morgan and Goldman have set out to tank gold all the way down to $900. They will time this to purchase the 10 metric tonnes Cyprus has. As fast as its going down it will go up. Once they acquire it
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Valued Member
United States
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Not fear. Confidence. Bloomberg says people are confident that an economic recovery is underway. (and they all deceided this on the same day) QE has had the affect of lowering income and rising asset prices. Not the sort of scenario that would precede a recovery. Therefore any recovery going forward will be rooted in the same basis that got us this far. More bond purchases with newly created cash.
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New Member
United States
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Quote: 2. Lower commodity prices generally I know gold/silver are commodities, but to me they are money, so, I hate to see them track other commodities and stocks. But, I haven't got scared off yet. These financial shell games can't last forever, so, maybe I'll be protected a bit down the road. Then again, maybe I'm fooling myself.
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Valued Member
United States
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Could just be another bubble bursting. I got into the game late 2010 and before that silver was always less than $20. I think the investment demand or physical demand shows people are getting more into saving, which is supposed to become more of a trend, and maybe figure savings accounts are bogus compared to PM's.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Quote: Why should PM's be different? I don't think you could put the PM's into the same category as Soy Beans and Pork Bellies Sel. PM's are there to store wealth not to make breakfast with   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it is easy as say for example one big dawg in China decides to dump for whatever reason-takin profits now or moving into something else perhaps they feel have brighter days ahead. Then all the equal big dawgs around him do the same and so on and so on down the line til a chain reaction sets in and the one word example above-fear kicks in.
Maybe that 1st big dawg simply was on the bad down wind side of a mountain yak after an all night eating spree of some rotten vegetables and it triggered him on the way to the stock exchange to dump it all on the way in and that has sealed all our fates.....
Edited by Silverhawk74 04/15/2013 8:51 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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"I don't think you could put the PM's into the same category as Soy Beans and Pork Bellies Sel."
Actually you can and they are traded the same way.
I remember back in the 90s. There was a huge short trade in pork bellies that made absolutely no sense. There were sellers everywhere as if we were about to be invaded by pigs. They drove it to something ridicolous like 19 cents. They busted everyone and then the big food conglomerates bought the farms and of course prices are sky high now.
Edited by wjl 04/15/2013 9:21 pm
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