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Hi all,

This is a pic I have just taken from a sellers page. He/she sells loads of the same kind of coin/coins and I was just wondering how do you get a worn coin to look like this? Is it some type of wax?



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The coin could be worn like that. I would suspect some kind of mechanical smoothing, probably done when the coin was "cleaned". Hope that helps. That's my two obols.
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Do you think they are polishing the coins clean then putting a type of lacquer on? I have coins with less wear than some they have but I can't seem to get the 'effect' they have achieved, ready for sale.
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Without seeing in hand. I would guess there is probably no lacquer on it or anything like that. I think if anything it made smooth and the presentation is an effect of lighting on the coin.
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My guess is that it's a worn coin coated with a light layer of a protective seal, such as ren-wax.
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If the coin has a tightly adherent patina, you can get that finish with a brass brush. Otheriwse it might be waxed with Renaissance Wax to bring the shine out.
Patina is just a tihgtly adherent layer of corrosion of a pleasant color. Too much brushing will remove patina. I use a brass toothbrush and dont have too many problems. The Honorius and Julian II I posted in another thread were both wire brush cleaned. You just need to know when to stop. Practice on junky coins first until you get the hang of it. Definitely faster than soaking for a year in olive oil.
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I still have half a bottle of my 'Blue Ribbon' coin preservative. If coated with a thin layer and left in the sun to dry off most nonporous ancient coins will get a similar type of sheen. one year ago I looked on line and they were $30 for a tiny bottle. I should have bought one. Last time I looked I could not find any.
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Personally, I would steer clear of coins that have been given this "patination".
It is not part of the original coin, as real Patina is, and is used often to hide flaws.
If I ever get such coins I clean it of with Acetone.
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I agree looks like it has been coated most likely Renwax.
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Thank you so much for your input guys, I have watched the coin and many others like it from the same seller sell on ebay for an average of £25.00
Whoever it is and whatever they are doing to the coins is obviously working in their favour/favor.
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It's possible that the coin may look different in-hand, as far as color and the surface is concerned. Some dealers and others try to make a coin look "better" in order to sell them.
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Just curious ..... Maximinus Daia Thessalonika mint ? That is a 'healthy' price
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Hi friend,

If this is the seller I think it is I can reliably inform you they look absolutely nothing like that in reality. It's a mirage of lighting. Expect those to be a very dark tone.
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