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Eric III Galerius Revision

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 Posted 04/26/2013  7:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rasiel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Folks, I've completed a large section in my ongoing work on the ERIC series. I posted about a month ago that I'd begun on this chapter and that it was like pulling teeth getting through it. I never did find my mojo with this emperor and so it took me an embarrassing 47 days to complete a ~4000 coin survey but now that the draft is complete I'm ready to celebrate its completion. I'm not really sure how I'm going to go about publishing my next revision of ERIC so I thought perhaps to try a "shareware" approach as one possibility. To this end I'm posting the complete section here for download and if you find it worthwhile and want to toss a buck or two my way that would be really appreciated. If you don't like it or can't afford it, really, no guilt from me.

Anyway, http://dirtyoldbooks.com/eric3/ERIC3galerius.pdf

For those of you who have Aorta or ERIC II you'll see the overall layout remains familiar but each entry is now much denser with information. For those not familiar here's a rundown on usage:

The heart of the cataloguing system aims to condense a lot of information into a small space (as there are tens of thousands of coin varieties this is the only practical way to publish it economically). For ease of use the book employs a consistent methodology throughout that breaks down any given coin into four elements: 1) obverse bust design, 2) the obverse legend, 3) the reverse legend and, 4) the reverse type design. Every known element is listed and numbered and the catalog then enumerates all the known combinations of each. The mint is appended as a fifth element that is excluded where obvious. Each coin is described on one - and always only one - line. With ERIC III the notes section that precedes the catalog will be expanded with general information pertinent to this reign and at the end of the catalog will be found the plates containing the best available photographs of obverses and reverses. New also for ERIC III there is an intense focus on rarity. Whereas up to now most references have lumped issues into vague rarity bands of questionable accuracy we will now get to see exactly how rare or common each coin type really is.

Let's take a couple of different line entries to explain:

141) B19, O24, R047, T050, M02 Exe: K/S over V/ANT $10 VF ebay 2/1999 3 300-301 RIC 55b (VI, Antioch), 63818
142) B19, O24, R047, T050, M02 Exe: K/e over V/ANT $60 VF Rauch 5/2005, $10 VF ebay 12/2010 75 300-301 RIC 55b (VI, Antioch), 863818

In these two (fictional) entries - which unfortunately don't line up into columns due to plain text here - we find a description of the coin encoded in the five elements spoken of previously. B19 would correspond to line 19 of the busts header and so on. Then, in the case of LRB especially, we find mintmark info appended after the Exe: (for exergue) which uses a format placing the letter K on the left field, S over V on the right and ANT in the exergue. The fields are separated by forward slashes. If we had a coin with only an A mark in the left field and ANT in the exergue we would write it as A//ANT to show that the right field was empty.

Then comes pricing information giving you an idea what a given coin of this type is worth. Normally I can fit a couple in each line, assuming a couple were actually for sale at some point. In the first line we have an issue of this variety having gone for $10 in VF condition on ebay and date of sale (my grade, not theirs). Then we come to the rarity where I note how many of this sort of coin I've come across. If, as in the example for Galerius, there were three recorded out of a total of 4,000 that would mean you can have a reasonable expectation of coming across one like this out of every 1000 coin sales of Galerius in general or so, making it rather rare indeed, while the line below, at 75, makes the variant with officina E approximately 25 times more common.

The mint date is given next and references are listed last. The bare numbers at the end are for a direct reference to a sample of this variety from the database used in putting together this and all other sections (coinvac.com) so that you can quickly find this variant for comparison. Line entries with references grayed out remain unconfirmed while lines in normal black type but without a bare number simply mean that the variety was confirmed but is not archived on coinvac.

Each denomination has additional pricing information at the head of the listings to give one a quick idea of what to expect to pay at auction divided as ebay and "everywhere else". Sales from about two dozen of the most prominent auctioneers are being recorded. For a number of reasons, in ERIC III I will not be tallying pricing from fixed coin sales regardless of venue; however, they are counted towards determining marketplace rarity.

It's my hope this section will be useful to anyone with an even passing interest in Galerius and if not at least it should give a sense of what to expect for the rest of the book.

Many thanks
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 Posted 04/26/2013  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ras, are you going to include Byzantine coins in ERIC III? AS you know I have all your works and use them daily. ERIC II is an excellent book but It is a big heavy work. Have you given any thought about dividing the new book into a few volumes?
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 Posted 04/26/2013  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rasiel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I was thinking of splitting them up into several volumes since I was already nearing the maximum number of pages that the binder can work with and by the looks of it this is going to be bigger by a few hundred pages. On the other hand, I've been disappointed with how little interest there is in Byzantine coinage overall. ERIC II includes all of Sear BCV plus then some in a prettier package overall. At this point it would not be much effort to keep working on the Byzantines for the sake of completeness. I'm guessing the market for Byzantinists is just too small to make a difference one way or the other.

The only real concern about splitting the books into volumes is the extra cost since the printer considers each a separate project. It would be nice to be able to say give me 2000 of the Julio-Claudians and 50 Byzantines but they don't work that way. Or, rather, they would just give me the price as if for 2000 then immediately send 1,950 copies to the recycler ;-)

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 Posted 04/26/2013  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know what you mean about Byzantine coinage, I've been trying to spark an interest in them here, which seems to have been taking hold a bit. But still not enough to see them being posted on a regular bases. Your work on Byzantine coinage in ERIC II is extensive and serves us few collectors well. It's nice to have them included, but I don't think it is a big selling point in buying the book. The interest lays more with Roman Coinage. I think a section on Roman Provincial coinage would get more interest. I'm looking forward to when ERIC III comes out.

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 Posted 04/27/2013  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Rasiel for sharing with us your progress on your tremendous work!
The PDF of your Galerius section is really interesting.
For example, I have recently sold on my ebay (shipped today to Australia) an AE Follis of Galerius as Caesar, it sold for £4.99.
In the list of the PDF it is:
"487) B19, O24, R047, T050, M14 Exe: Delta/).TS.) $40 aEF ebay 10/2012, $50 aEF ebay 2/2012 8 302-303 RIC 26b (VI, Thessalonica), 961196"
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/19082694189....m1561.l2649

I find, generally, that large Folles sell poorly, unless of the rare "London" type or of Diocletian.

I have also found that Byzantine coins are hard to sell.
May well stem from a general ignorance, in the average person, of what the Byzantine empire was.
1,123 years is a lot to put into a "History Channel" episode.

Also, there seems to be a list of popular Roman emperors that sell well such as "Augustus-Hadrian" + "Caracalla" and that is it. Antoninus Pius is hard to sell, as is Marcus Aurelius., no matter the "Gladiator" hype.

Really great work Rasiel, keep us updated please.
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 Posted 04/27/2013  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely excellent work. I also have AORTA, and yeah the format looks almost exactly the same in ERIC III.
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 Posted 04/28/2013  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep it up Ras. I love my ERIC II.

Would definitely like to see then next release broken into a few volumes. It is huge and heavy. :)
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 Posted 04/28/2013  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome Rasiel!
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