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I was having another look at the description of the silver Bald Eagle coin and this time around stopped on the phrase "Your coin also features unique edge lettering..."

This feature isn't unique on Canadian coins. The same technique was used on the recent silver coins of the Great Canadian Locomotives series. Those coins were the same size as the new Bald Eagle coin and featured a plain edge lettered with the name of the locomotive that was depicted on the coin's reverse.

And wasn't edge lettering used on the 1988 Calgary Olympics coins? And how about the new $2.00 coin? Are there others?

Doesn't "unique" mean "one of a kind"?

(Nothing mean spirited here - just having a bit of fun at the expense of the RCM marketing department. But it is interesting to note how often the true meanings of words are stretched for the sake of product marketing.)


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bald eagle is 1oz pure silver, others not
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1998 10oz silver maple leaf has edge lettering, it's 10 oz pure silver, size of recent 5oz coins, but double the thickness, to me that's unique
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10 oz. Maple Leaf now selling @ over $1,000 on ebay - don't know the original mint price.
Well, 2 are listed @ that price anyways.
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To paraphrase the saying; they are all unique, just like every other coin.

The gold plated 1 kg thinks it's a first too but there have been many GP coins, and many GP maple leaf coins - just no other 1 kg maple leaf GP coin.

Totally agree the RCM marketing team is reaching a bit. Every coin is the first ________(fill in the blank) ever of something.


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10 oz. Maple Leaf now selling @ over $1,000 on ebay - don't the original mint price.


Selling for more like $650. There are BIN for $850. The issue price was $200.
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Commems, you are quite correct. Unique is one of the most misused words in the English language and I cringe when people say "very unique" or "somewhat unique". Something is unique or it isn't. Using those 'degrees' of uniqueness is like saying someone is "a little bit pregnant" or like the famous line from George Orwell's Animal Farm, "We are all equal, but some of us are more equal than others." Those are also words that can't have degrees of something. Unique is one of those crutch words--used when the person can't think of an accurate word to describe something. Like CC-Ottawa says, "all unique, just like every other coin".
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Well, it could be a play on words... maybe the combination of letters, and what they say, are unique (compared to other coins with edge lettering)...
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Ravenzcoin - Very correct, especially in numismatics. On the rarity grading scale, unique means "one of a kind" or "no other known". The lettering might be unique to the series, but if it has been used on other series than it is not unique at all. The technique itself might be unique - there is only "one" way to do it, no matter the coin or design series. Perhaps they have a unique machine that uses a series of unique dies that impart edge lettering which is unique in size, font or width... okay enough with words.
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bald eagle is 1oz pure silver, others not

Not necessarily accurate. For example, the coins of the locomotive series I referenced are the same size, weight and fineness as the new Bald Eagle coin. I imagine the RCM is using the same planchets for the new coin as it did for the train series.


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Unique does not mean it is the first coin with edge lettering, only that the edge lettering on this coin is unique (not the same as the others). So if you want this edge lettering (maybe you are a collector of different edge lettering?) then you need this coin.

It doesn't hurt the marketing that people will associate unique with first.
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FWIW,
I was speaking to a mint rep when ordering this yesterday before MC release and mentioned the edge lettering. The first thing he said was "just like the train series coins".

There seems to be a lot of hate on forums about this coin.
I think people will be pleasantly surprised with how this will look when it's released. Also, the series of Bald Eagles really will be great for lovers of them. This is the cameo shot, action shots still to possibly come.....
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i was literally just thinking this as I picked up my 200 colombian peso coin and saw the edge lettering on it
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I don't think people hate this coin. They just not impress by it. I simply decide to wait for the $100 for $100 coin to spend my $100 on.
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This coin should be a hit, especially with low mintage for a 1oz
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I've seen it referenced as a "chicken" many times.
That's hating on the coin.
Oh well...to each their own. Haters are gonna hate.......
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I guess....I live near the water...and I dont see chickens with 6 foot wingspan fly high into the clouds and swoop down to pick up a fish out of the ocean...doesn't sound like it will make it to public release?!
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