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Allegory Coin: Bronze Or Brass?

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The RCM specifications for the "Bronze Coin - Canada: An Allegory" says the composition is 95% Copper and 5% Zinc.

I looked up the difference between brass and bronze and found the following:

Brass: an alloy of copper and zinc

Bronze: an alloy of copper and tin

Why is this coin called a "bronze" coin instead of a "brass" coin?
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Interesting. Makes this coin even more valuable!

From Wikipedia:
"Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc...

"By comparison, bronze is principally an alloy of copper and tin.

However, Wikipedia mentions:

"Bronze does not necessarily contain tin...

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While referring to the RCM's copper/zinc mix as a brass alloy might be more technically correct, there are prior cases of such an alloy being referred to as "bronze." For example, beginning in 1864 and continuing until 1982, the US used either a composition of 95% copper/5% tin and zinc OR 95% copper/5% zinc for its small one cent coins and typically referred to them as "bronze."

I would submit that the RCM chose to call the coin "bronze" because it is a more appealing descriptor than "brass" or "copper alloy" and is not necessarily incorrect.

In all fairness, I did find definitions of bronze that referred to it as an alloy of "copper and another metal" without specifying that the other metal needed to be tin or zinc. Also, I found reference to "Commercial Bronze" with is 90% copper and 10% zinc.


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I would submit that the RCM chose to call the coin "bronze" because it is a more appealing descriptor than "brass" or "copper alloy" and is not necessarily incorrect.


something about the term bronze, maybe because it is commonly used to refer to third place in competitions, gives it a slightly higher pedigree than brass.
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Would prefer they just call it "copper." It worked for the penny...

Makes me wonder; are these new coins derived from melted copper pennies?
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I agree that they probably chose "bronze" as it is a better name fit with their gold and silver offerings, however, if the only other metal besides copper is zinc, I think it would be more fittingly be called a brass coin.

It is funny that what was originally described on the RCM website as a "1 oz Bronze Coin" is neither 1 oz nor, without stretching the definition, bronze.

It is really a half brass representation of what people originally expected to be a full ounce bronze coin!







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Maybe the mint couldn't take all the puns! Doing something half-bronzed doesn't sound nearly as bad!
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