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Valerian II Antoninianus/Victoria Part

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I wanted an ValerianII out of the standard CONSECRATIO or PRINICP IUVENT,and this is one I found....
RIC 54Valerian II Billon Antoninianus. P LIC COR VALERIANVS CAES, radiate draped bust right / VICTORIA PART, Victory standing right, presenting wreath to Valerian II, holding spear. RSC 97. Sear 5, 10742.
2´4 grs & 20mm....

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In this case does PART refer to victory over Parthia?
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Very nice coin.
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that's another cool one.
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In this case does PART refer to victory over Parthia?

Yes; although by the time this coin was made, modern historians classify the eastern empire as "Sassanian" rather than "Parthian", there was no discernible difference from the Roman point of view. And unfortunately for him and especially his grandfather Valerian I, the Roman victories over the Sassanians were short-lived.
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And unfortunately for him and especially his grandfather Valerian I


Unfortunately, indeed!
From wikipedia,

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Valerian was subjected to the greatest insults by his captors, such as being used as a human footstool by Shapur when mounting his horse. According to this version of events, after a long period of such treatment Valerian offered Shapur a huge ransom for his release. In reply, according to one version, Shapur was said to have forced Valerian to swallow molten gold (the other version of his death is almost the same but it says that Valerian was killed by being flayed alive) and then had the unfortunate Valerian skinned and his skin stuffed with straw and preserved as a trophy in the main Persian temple. It was further alleged that it was only after a later Persian defeat against Rome that his skin was given a cremation and burial.[6] The captivity and death of Valerian has been frequently debated by historians without any definitive conclusion.[5]


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This coin is qualified as Rare At WILDWINDS.Cansomeone explain me what is rare and what is scarce?thankyou
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Wildwinds generally use the scarcity ratings given by contributor which is usually sourced from the relevant volume of RIC. These scarcity ratings vary from volume to volume and do not really hold true today. There are coins that are rated Common by RIC that in reality are Scarce, Rare or even Very Rare and there are others that are rated Unique that turn out to be quite common. This is all down to the methodolgies used by the authors. They measured the scarcity from a variety of sources e.g. Cohen and the various collections and museums that were consulted by the authors. At the time of writing RIC the Balkans and other regions were not the source of many of the coins in these references/museums. In recent years coins coming out of the Balkans etc. have changed the scarcity of many varieties. Scarcity ratings are at best a guide but often misleading.
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Thanks for the clarification on that Sap.
Martin, Thanks for the info, I always found scarcity and rarity, charts, tables and assignments rather unhelpful for that reason.
Mal-Nice coin man, there is a lot of history behind the piece. Kudos.
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