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Counterfeit Ebay Offer 1799 Dollar

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Thanks to the education that I have received here on the CCF
and my own study, I felt confident to report this to ebay.


Counterfeit-Ebay-Offer-1799-Dollar

Counterfeit-Ebay-Offer-1799-Dollar

Link is:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-1799-Sil...em3cd2fbf089

The seller obviously is an antique dealer so I cut him slack, but I reported my concern to him as well.

Text to seller:

Sorry, but this is not a genuine coin.
I have reported this fact to ebay.
Since you apparently are an antique dealer and not a coin dealer lets call it an honest mistake. Please rectify.

Link to genuine example: https://goccf.com/t/137735&whichpage=1

Matthew

Let's see what happens.

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 Posted 06/29/2013  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have got to be kidding me. It looks like something out of a comic book. The hair on the back of the head looks like it was cut off with a paper cutter. Don't even get me started with the "details" in the hair,the date,and the stars.
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 Posted 06/29/2013  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sean the Coin collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow that is a mess and their is no doubt it is a fake !! I will be interested to see what the seller has to say back about it !!
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Our old friend, the scowling Liberty with the chicken-headed eagle again. Says an $800 bid, with "this listing has ended;" is that good or bad?
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I think that he pulled it:

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

I choose to think the seller did the right thing. I did not accuse the seller of fraud.
Instead I declared that this was probably an honest mistake. The seller made good.

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 Posted 06/29/2013  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I double checked, philadelphian. No bids.
Not so much scowling as the woman is in pain.
$800 was the seller's starting price.

Every day I get updates from ebay showing new listings for the 1799.
Many are re-submissions. The exercise has trained my eyes.

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unbelieveable!....
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Quote:
I think that he pulled it:

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

I choose to think the seller did the right thing. I did not accuse the seller of fraud.
Instead I declared that this was probably an honest mistake. The seller made good.


The only way that message appears is if the seller did it on his own; it would have been a different message had ebay been the acting authority. I'm not going to judge your methodology - we each have our own methods - but had it been me I'd have only contacted the seller first and given him 24 hours to make good on his own. Not having seen the auction active, I don't know if the timeframe forbade such patience - had there been only a day or so left, I might have contacted ebay simultaneously - but I feel that in many such cases the seller deserves the right to come to his own senses.

Like I said, though, that's a judgement call regarding the seller's intent so I'm not stating my thinking as a hard recommendation.
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Very poor quality. Not even good for jewelry.
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Heheh, that one is pretty sad.
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The shield/eagle on reverse are outlandish as is the figure on the obverse.
Even an untrained eye could spot that as a fake -
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Well, that's the funny thing. Most "untrained eyes" don't even know what one is *supposed* to look like.

Even worse looking fakes have ended up in The Black Cabinet's stacks, and each one passed at least once as genuine before landing there.
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That is painful to look at. I'll bet she didn't have a date to the prom
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Those lips!...I didn't know they were doing plastic surgery back in 1799. She should sue for malpractice or at least get on the web site showing plastic surgery gone wrong.
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