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Ariobarzanes I & II

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 Posted 07/11/2013  5:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I just bought 2 Cappadocian coins of Ariobarzanes I & II via ebay.
Both are scuffed/damaged but still nice coins for a little money

What are such coins worth? a piece of Ariobarzanes II has been broken off but I read its a rare emperor-coin.


Ariobarzanes I Diameter approx 17.5mm, weight approx 3.99g
Ariobarzanes-I-&-II

Ariobarzanes-I-&-II
Ariobarzanes II Diameter approx 17.5mm, weight approx 3.29g
Ariobarzanes-I-&-II

Ariobarzanes-I-&-II
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 Posted 07/11/2013  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both coins I think are nice. I have only one coin of the Kingdom of Cappaocia and I have a drachm of Ariobarzanes III. Funny. If you bought these you would surely need Ariobarzanes III, right?

As far as value its one of those things where they are worth what someone is willing to pay for them.

Coin #1 Is a nice coin, I would pay less that 100 dollars, but I am cheap.

Coin #2 Is broken. I don't like "broken" clipped is ok but not broken, broken. The coin still has value, I would say less than $50. I personally wouldn't buy it, but if I had all the Ariobarzanes' then I might really consider it.

I am eager to see what you do!
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 Posted 07/11/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
both great coins, the damage on both of the probably brings them down to something I could afford to pay for them...but that's about all I can tell you. nice busts and the athena with victory revese is very cool.
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 Posted 07/11/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like them, very nice coins.
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 Posted 07/11/2013  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually very cheap: 60 dollar in total! What a bargain!
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think you did well!
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 Posted 07/12/2013  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you got a very decent bargain with those two. I have an Ariobarzanes I which my girlfriend bought me as a birthday present last year. I would say its a choice vf but has some attractive irridescent toning.

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 Posted 07/12/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow in a very good conditon Jimbo.. I didnt know anything about those two until I saw them on a auction on ebay..did some research and bought them..;-)
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 Posted 07/12/2013  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! Very attractive toning on your coin. She made a great choice.
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07/12/2013 11:25 am
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimbo777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys.

Shame there is not a lot of information on this king to be found online, would love to learn more.

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Great coins. I don't have any in this area as of yet.
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Most ancient silver coins, when they are freshly recovered from the ground can be unidentifiable.
With some very judicious preliminary brushing then acid cleaning by an experienced professional, a very nice coin can be revealed.
The problem is that although the cleaning is necessary, almost all of the patination is removed.

That seems to be the case with the piece that Jimbo777 has pictured here.
It is a bit like the beautiful multi hued toning that can be seen on some top grade Morgans.
In this case, condition is everything.

It would be impossible for an ancient silver coin out of the ground to have delicate toning such as this.
Personally, that does not worry me one little bit, and it is a very attractive coin.

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07/13/2013 12:22 am
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Yes, when coins have a lot of toning it's usually a sign that they have been sitting in collectors cabinets for long periods of time though it's possible to use artificial methods to speed up the toning process. I'm a bit of a sucker for nice toning as I think it often adds to the beauty of a peice but it's never for me a primary reason for buying a coin.
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