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1940 NFLD 1c Re Or MD?

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Been reading some previous posts on the topic. It seems there are 6 dies for 1940? Re-engraved or Machine Doubling?





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Thanks SPP (I missed the top thread). Very interesting...so this doubling occurs both on the '40 and '41. I just started collecting the series, so was curious on how many varieties I'd be hunting for.

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Here is a picture of the date on a 1940RE I took.

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DV that's a much better picture than mine.

Are there pictures somewhere of the difference between "double 1940/1941" and re-engraved? There seems to be some discrepancy between the 2. PCGS recognizes the 1940 and ICCS the 1941 as "Double Date". I apologize for my ignorance but the few threads I've read the conclusion seems to be "skeptical" with the attributions. Forgive me, I am just particular, which is sometimes a strength, mostly a weakness or vice versa.


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Skeptical is good. And certainly I need to find a definitive argument behind the attribution as RE--or not. In the meantime--without being that definitive--I will do a little analysis of my particular coin, and how these details support MD or re-engraving.
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Ksmcents--wow, I think you found an old conversation I had with someone who contended the 1940 RE was ' Machine Doubling'. I never thought it was Machine Doubling myself; I only suggested the coins should speak for themselves. Now, if this was machine doubling--and not on the die--it should vary a lot between coins. However, I have since found a nice picture of a mint-state, certified 1940 RE to compare to mine. As you can see, the re-engraving is an exact match--which can only mean this is the same, re-engraved die.

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Regarding your coin pictured above--the "4" sure looks similar, but I'm uncertain for the other digits--although I'm leaning that way.
Perhaps my pictures will suffice as a diagnostic. If your coin is the RE and it's MS...it's a high value coin!

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That's awesome DV! Thank you! It's identical to the pics you provided! With the notches in the N's as well.

Mine won't reach MS. It's been wiped/rubbed and has some hairlines on the reverse, but it still has great details.

I cherry picked this out of a junk bin at an antique shop for $1.00. I figured I couldn't go wrong. Thank you!
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That's awesome DV! Thank you! It's identical to the pics you provided! With the notches in the N's as well.
Cool...that's just one more confirmation, that it's on the die. Congrats on your $1 pickup!
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