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 Posted 07/13/2013  7:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add centsdimes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone explain to me how the 1869/9 Indian Head cent came into existence?
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Originally, it was believed that an 1869/8 IHC overdate variety existed. It was greatly desired by collectors, and it was even put in pricing guides and slots were added in albums to accommodate the variety. Sometime in the early 70's the ANA determined that the overdate was actually an 1869/9 repunched date. There are a considerable number of varieties of this repunched date. I hope this answers your question.
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I guess a repunched date is when they punch the coin twice, as opposed to repunching the date on the die, which would be called an "overdate."
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I believe an overdate is a type of repunched date. What makes it an overdate is when a new year is punched over an old year. For instance an 1788/7 Large Cent.
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This is what Wikipedia says about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint-m...te_.28OVD.29
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That is pretty much what I said. Here is a link written by Kevin Flynn, much more reliable than Wikipedia IMO. http://www.bestcoin.com/OverDate-Error-Coins.htm
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An overdate is one date punched in over a different date A repunched date is a date punched in over the same date. A repunched date may exist because the first blow of the punch into the die wasn't deep enough and when the punch was placed back on the die and hit again it was in a slightly different place. It could also be intentional if they decided the placement of the fist punching was wrong and the position was deliberately changed between punching to correct the placement.

An overdate can happen either accidentally or deliberately. Typically before the 20th century an overdate was created when a dated but unhardened die was left over at the end of the year. Rather than discard a perfectly good (and in the early years costly) die the date of the following year would be punched into the die, it would be hardened and used. In the twentieth century overdates were created during the last couple of months of the year when the mint would be making dies for both the current and following year. A die would be hubbed using a hub with one date, wold be sent for annealing, and when it came back it was then accidentally hubbed with a different dated hub
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