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 Posted 07/13/2013  10:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add st1114g to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I have this coin/ assuming it's a coin/ and would really appreciate if someone more knowledgeable takes a peek at it, and is able to give me an idea of Time Frame/Location/Value.


Thank you!

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 Posted 07/13/2013  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's Byzantine, or possibly Trapezuntine, what's called a scyphate piece for its cup-shape. Looks like "Andronicus" for the Emperor, pictured standing next to Christ on the obverse (I can't read the rest of the inscription), & Mary (Maria Theotokos, which is what the abbreviations are for) on the reverse.
As I'm not a Byzantine specialist, I can't tell you more.
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 Posted 07/13/2013  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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This is a very nice billon trachy of the Byzantine emperor Andronicus I Comnenus 1183-1185, The obverse is the Virgin Mary standing holding the infant Christ. It is Sear# 1985.
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 Posted 07/14/2013  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add st1114g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the information folks! I've had this coin for about 20-25 years and knew nothing about it...
Would you be able to give me a circa on value, even though I doubt I'd sell it... yet!
Thank you again!:)
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 Posted 07/14/2013  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add st1114g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I found a couple on ebay and they run $45-60. Mine looks a little better preserved so it's probably a bit more... but surely not worth the trade for me. :)
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 Posted 07/14/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What people 'ask' and what they 'get' are two different things. Put some of them on a watch list and see if they sell. Of course a BIG dealer selling it and some "chump" with a feedback score of 20 will get very different results. Life isn't fair but that is reality I am afraid.

My own guestimate (Byzantine are not my forte) was $30-40
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 Posted 07/14/2013  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In its condition and if you were to buy it from a dealer you would probably pay between $90-$100.
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 Posted 07/14/2013  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My own 'guestimate' is based on ebay sales which can be very different from a coin dealer who has Persian carpets on the floor !
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 Posted 07/14/2013  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i don't know what its worth realy, but i'd like to have it...nice legend and other details.
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 Posted 07/14/2013  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it's a very nice trachy and I'd be happy to own it. No idea what it is truly worth but as others have said, google recent sales.
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I agree with you guys- it is a nice piece of history to own and I will be keeping it for kids and grandkids, God willing! Hopefully by then, if is to be sold, will add some digits to the number:)
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WOW thats a great coin, in what I would call Superb for the type...

I want one, really bad! Oh wait I just got one....thats right..

I would be very happy with your coin, as I am with mine. Which happens to be the same coin. Echizento's estimate is pretty close. I came up with about $80.

What is really exceptional about your coin is the Legend....notice mine is in pretty high grade but nowhere near the amount of legend you have on yours. To have such an example there would be no amount of money someone would pay to make it worth giving it up. One of the best examples I have come across.



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"What is really exceptional about your coin is the Legend.... To have such an example there would be no amount of money someone would pay to make it worth giving it up." ...I couldn't say it better! :)
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 Posted 07/16/2013  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a beauty indeed.
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