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Need Help Identifying 3 Coins/Medals.

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 Posted 07/20/2013  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SecTPB to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help to identify these 3 coins please.

The first looks like a Dutch coin, because it has ``concordia res parvae cresunt`` on one side (couldn't write the latin word c.r.e.s.c.u.n.t. properly without it censoring me ahahaha). It seems to be written ``6 S`` on the other side, meaning 6 stuivers. I've searched a lot but can't seem to find any other info. It could be brass, possibly meaning it's a token instead of a coin.

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The second could be silver, but I can't find my testing kit. It has a Celtic-looking symbol on it, but I can't find it. It also has weird markings on the obverse.

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The third could also be silver, or could be a replica. It is very small and weighs less than a gram. One side looks like those Jewish Revolt coins, but it also has Arabic or Persian script on the other side.

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Any info on these coins will be greatly appreciated, thank you :)
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 Posted 07/20/2013  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SecTPB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry that I couldn't post the images directly on the post, even when optimized, they were over 100kb:( (probably shouldn't have used a Nikon to take the photos, aha!)
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 Posted 07/21/2013  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the first coin is from the netherlands, province of Gelderland, city of zutphen "6 Stüber" (aka rijderschilling)
is this copper or silver? normally, it must be silver.
http://www.muenzauktion.com/knopik/...5003&lang=en

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 Posted 07/21/2013  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If #1 is as coppery-coloured as your pictures indicate, then it's probably a counterfeit. A weight to the nearest 0.01 grams might be helpful here, if you can obtain it.

#2 is not numismatic. I'd say "it's just a piece of jewellery", but it probably meant more than that to someone, once. If the markings on the back were language once, they're too worn away to read now.

#3 is, as mass indicated, an Iranian "wedding token". You can see several other examples being discussed by searching for those words using the forum search, such as this thread. This website depicts several varieties and also illustrates the wedding table fixture, with candles and a mirror, illustrated on the token.
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 Posted 07/21/2013  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SecTPB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one is, silver or not, not numismatic. It would practically take someone with a masters degree in cryptology to decipher both sides ahahaha. Unless someone has more info, let's rule this one as identified.

Third one, thank you mass and Sap for identifying it and for the links! Basically, since these marriages still happen, we cannot find the date nor the exact location of it's making. And the 2 spots of rust on one side probably means it's not silver.

The first one is actually brass-coloured, but the lighting in which I took the photo makes it look coppery. I'm pretty sure it's brass, and since platinrubel identified it, it's surely a counterfeit. Or maybe a jeton of some sorts?
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Why are the pictures broken?
I can't seem to see them even after refreshing it.
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#2 strikes me as being an amuletic pendant from a Renaissance fair or SCA event, something of that sort. The mark on the reverse, which looks a little like teeth, is probably distinctive, & could be used to find the craftsman if you cared to. Pretty clearly it is marked "1998", although I'm having trouble with what's written below that. It looks like the lettering was at least partly punched in with basic tools (not letter punches).
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No. 2 looks like a First Nations piece, possibly the swastika variant known as the Horned Serpent.
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Sorry if the images don't work for you Pheroow, though they work for me..

I too, when looking at it saw ``1998`` and the symbol looked like a swastika for me too. Thank you for the info, I'll look SCA and horned serpent!:)
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