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 Posted 05/30/2007  06:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add stratocaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello, first of all, as I'm new around here!
Since I began collecting coins, I found some that I can not identify. Please take a look at the pictures and help me if you will

This one was foun together with some XXth century Romanian coins. It might be a token? (~30mm)
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I have absolutely no idea about this one.A token? (~25mm)
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This one is dated 1973/1393, but I don't know where it is from. (~23mm)
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The following two coins look to me rather old. I bought them together with 38 other turkish, romanian, austrian, polish, XVI-XIXth century silver coins, for some 25$ all. I think these are brass. They might also be tokens.
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 Posted 05/30/2007  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The third coin is a 5 Fils from the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. KM#4

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 Posted 05/30/2007  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Number 1 is a token from the American Automatic Machine Company, a manufacturer of tokens for coin-operated machines dating back to the late 1800's. Suspect the token is from the early 1900's.

Number 2 is a Japanese token... you'll need to check it with someone who knows that language to get some idea what it was used for.

Number 3 is, as Triggersmob says, 5 fils from the Yemen Democratic Republic. I can't say I've ever seen a Yemeni coin that well worn...

Numbers 4 and 5 are Lauer rechenpfennigs or jetons, "counting tokens" made in Nuremberg, Germany, prior to WWI; the Lauers were the last dynasty of Nuremberg jeton-makers. Most of the good websites about these things seem to be in German; do a Google search for "Lauer rechenpfennig" and you'll see pictures of lots of similar items, including items for sale on ebay.
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 Posted 05/30/2007  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum stratocaster. Those coins and tokens are really interesting. I hope we get too see more!

Sap, I knew you were gonna get this!!

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 Posted 05/30/2007  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stratocaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you very much! looks like in a coupple of hours I found out what I couldn't find in a few months! Thank you very much indeed!

One more question: on the first token, the legend says "MASHINE" instead of "machine"...you happen to know why?

About the lauer rechs all I could find for now is "angegeben sind, dann legen Sie den Artikel bitte". If anyone knows a good site, please, let me know.

thank you again.

ps: about the used yemen coin. I actually have two of the same type, and I posted the best one.
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One more question: on the first token, the legend says "MASHINE" instead of "machine"...you happen to know why?

Hmmm. I admit I didn't notice that at first. You're from Romania, right? The only other hit Google makes for this exact phrase is an old post on another Internet forum, someone also finding one of these tokens among a bunch of Romanian coins. Information from that site indicates your token is definitely pre-1950.

The only two references to these tokens is in a Romanian context; surely that can't be co-incidence. I'm guessing that the whole batch of these tokens may have ended up over there.

The "American Automatic Machine Company" made, among other devices, "trade stimulators" - early forms of poker machines; tokens like yours were used in such machines. I know someone who collects such things; I'll send him an e-mail and see if he knows anything more.
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OK, he didn't know anything offhand, except that such tokens weren't used here in Australia. He loaned me his books to try to look it up: Video Arcade, Pinball, Slot Machine, and other Amusement Tokens of North America by Stephen P. Alpert And Kenneth E. Smith of the Amusement Token Collectors Association, both the original 1984 catalogue and the 1994 supplement.

It doesn't seem to be listed in either book, though "American Machine Co", "American Mashine (sic) Co" and "Automatic Machine Co" are all listed, under the "Older Unidentified tokens" category. Sounds like it's unknown (or at least uncommon) in the USA, despite the name.
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Thank you very much Sap! I'll keep looking for some information and I'll let you know if I find something. I suspect though that this specific token was only used in Romania.
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