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Can Someone Try And Identify This Please

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It appears to be made of lead. In this particular case, it is most probably a lead seal, rather than a token or coin.

Back in olden times, if you wished to securely seal up a package or letter, you would take the string wrapped around the parcel or letter and seal the strings together with a piece of lead or wax. The stamps used to squeeze the lead or wax into place resembled little coin dies, and the resultant seals did resemble coins, except for the two holes in the rim where the strings passed through.

On your piece, I believe I can see where those holes are: at 10 o'clock and 4 o'clock in the bottom picture. I can also see a raised line connecting those two points - presumably where the seal was broken and the string pulled through.

Until fairly recently (late 19th - early 20th century) such lead seals were still being used in the wool trade in Britain, for bales of raw wool and for bolts of finished cloth. You can find dozens of types of such seals on the UKDFD database.
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Thanks Sap. I would never have thought it was a seal, but it makes sense. :)
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Looked at the database and even indentified another seal (I thought was coin). Once again thanks, most interesting.
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Sap, once again amazing identification!
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A lead seal is a "bulla" in Latin, hence the term "Papal Bull" for a class of official documents issued by the Roman Pontiff with such seals.
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Thanks Publius, more interesting history.
How does the quote go "if you do not know history, it is like being born yesterday." or something to that affect or is it effect.
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Good post Tracyaw!
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Thanks bpoc1. I Llarn something new everyday on here :)
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