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Kiangnan Province $1 Dragon Coin

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 Posted 08/21/2013  4:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BB350 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
I recently acquired a Kiangnan Province 7 Mace and 2 Candareens dragon coin. I assume it's a 1904 or newer fake, but I wanted to see if anyone can crack an egg of knowledge over my head about this coin!

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 Posted 08/21/2013  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like to have a coin to examine in hand first before I form an opinion, but don't need to in this case.

All of the details are indistinct, which suggests a third generation (or more), copy off an original.
The texture of the surface suggests that it has been cast, not struck. Those little lumps in the surface suggest casting bubbles.
I can't see the edge milling, but I would think that it would show up very poorly against most genuine modern coins.

A comparison ring tone test against a known genuine equivalent coin would show obvious differences.
How much does it weigh? Is it attracted to a magnet?
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 Posted 08/22/2013  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manymore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While the reverse side says in English that the coin was made in "Kiangnan Province" (江南省), the obverse side states in Chinese that it was made in Yunnan Province ('南省).

Also, no coins with the inscription xuan tong yuan bao (宣统.宝) and a denomination of "7 mace and 2 candareens" were ever minted in Kiangnan Province.

For these reasons as well as the issues already mentioned, the coin is clearly a poorly-made "fake".

Gary

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 Posted 08/22/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are there any truly exceptional fakes (like... fifth-generation)?

And are there avid hobbyists who try and collect each generation of cast copy, as they get worse and worse?

I mean, you could have some cheap fun this way - die pairing for losers...
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