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Help Identifying Two Gold Coins

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 Posted 09/09/2013  07:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add filmoedas to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thank you :)

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 Posted 09/09/2013  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't offer any help on whether they're real or not, but you have two old "hammered" gold coins. The first one is British, with Elizabeth I (ER), and the second one is an early hammered 8-escudo Spanish gold piece. Both of these sound pretty valuable, and I'm not a crack shot with coins this old, so I'll leave it up to our British and world experts to fully attribute!

There is also a higher chance that they're fake, though, because these are some fairly large and old gold coins which would make a lot of profit for a counterfeiter, whether he was trying to make fakes to spend when these coins were in use or fakes to fool modern collectors.
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 Posted 09/09/2013  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
'Fake' was the first thought for me that came up, but that is only because of what I have read.
I WILL NOT say 'yea' or 'nay' about these, simply because I have no experience with them.

Nevertheless, nalaberong makes an important point.
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 Posted 09/09/2013  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's H K, nalaberong, not E R! And the obverse legend reads HENRIC VIII RUTILANS ROSA SINE SPINA ("Henry VIII, a dazzling rose without a thorn!") The coin is a Crown of the Double-Rose, the H standing for Henry, and the K for Katherine; perhaps with some variety analysis we might be able to say which of Henry's Katherines this coin referred to!
And, welcome filmoedas!
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 Posted 09/09/2013  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second coin is actually a gold half real of Flanders, minted in Bruges under the rule of Philip II of Spain: PHS D G HISPANIARV REX CO F (Philip, by the grace of God, king of Spain and Count of Flanders).
http://www.elsen.eu/LotNavigation/A...d=Auction104
Again, welcome filmoedas! Or should I say, bem-vindo?
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Quote:
and the K for Katherine; perhaps with some variety analysis we might be able to say which of Henry's Katherines this coin referred to!


Looking quickly at Spink it looks like Katherine of Aragon Spink#2273
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 Posted 09/09/2013  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I said I wasn't much good at these :(
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 Posted 09/10/2013  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add filmoedas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much for the replies and philadelphian, you're the best :)
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