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Byzantine Coins Found In Yorkshire

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Thats right. These are a long way from home, probably carried by an exotic trader or perhaps souvenirs from a pilgrimage east.

Ive asked the finder if they're recorded and (if not) to record them.

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Sellers images are all over the place and rotated, but you can see the gist of it.
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 Posted 09/11/2013  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i'll be darned....that pretty cool.
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I put my money on some 'crazy' Viking lost them ....... yaa sure hey
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All found together? With any non-Byzantine coins?
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THe patina suggests they are from seperate locations and were unresearched coins sold alonside the guy's roman finds.

Berserker dropping byzantine money? Maybe a Norman from the Byzantine wars was drafted into the UK territorials at the time - Hastings is before the Byzantine Wars, isn't it?
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The second coin is a half follis? If so then it would be around 500 - 700 AD. Whilst the first is a typical 12th - 13th century trachy. Without provenance there is no way to prove they were found in either of the four Yorkshire counties. The Normans were initially the "hired help" of the byzantine empire. The likes of Robert Guiscard changed all that. Both the English and byzantines rightly despised the Normans for their perfidity.
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No response from the seller but I received the coins today.

One is a very interesting large I, cross above, anno left and garbled regnal date right, NIK in ex. Barbarous as they get.

The other is an official Scyphate.
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No response, what a surprise.

Yeah, obviously a load of "bovem excretionum" about them being "Metal Detecting Finds From Yorkshire", "Metal Detecting" is a popular tag on ebay, otherwise these types of low grade Byzantine coins are hard to sell.

Never ceases to amaze me when dead beat sellers try to hoodwink buyers, then a buyer asks an obvious question and the seller seems to suffer loss of typing ability.
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Well, he responded when it sounded like negative feedback. Very wishy washy, but he says they were found near Brough which is a big roman and celtic settlement, so has the history behind it.
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Brough is also known as a hideout for the Highway robber Richard Turpin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Turpin
So maybe he invented a Time Machine and went back in time, twice, to the Constantinople of the 6th and 13th centuries to do some robbing in a "Bill and Ted" "Totally Bogus" style.
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