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Unknown Coins From Indian Ocean Shipwreck

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 Posted 10/22/2013  08:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add willard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
if anyone can tell me anything about these coins i'd be much obliged. found diving on an unknown wooden wreck.
many thanks.



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 Posted 10/22/2013  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Willard

Given the fact you didn't receive any response yesterday I suspect we need larger and clearer pictures (individual coins) and size and weight.

I may be proved wrong and 1 of the experts will be able to answer without the above but personally I am struggling.

And please delete the other thread.
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 Posted 10/22/2013  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats as close as I can get without the camera going out of focus. theyre actually quite small and to be honest there isn't really any extra detail to be seen any closer. they range between 14mm and 16mm in diameter and 2 to 3mm thick. the edges are bulging as opposed to straight. they weigh between 4.5 and 4.9 grams and appear to be made out of silver. the second picture is the reverse sides of the same coins as in the first pic and in the same positions. I cant delete the other thread as its more than 1 day old. (according to a pop up window whenever I try)
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 Posted 10/22/2013  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fmcc89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, maybe this can put you on the right track.. Seems pretty similar to me..

http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coi...in_coin=5628
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what is the metal composition? because if you found them underwater, there is no way they would have survived if they were copper or zinc, with that much detail. I would take them to a coin dealer to take a look at them.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you fmcc89, one of those does look very similar alright! I will do some digging in that direction.
@ schris252 I dont actually know what they are made of. they look like silver to me but I have no way of knowing so a coin dealer might be a good idea.
thanks for the help guys.
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willard,
The moderators will delete a post if you ask nicely and explain why.
Click on "send a note to staff" which appears on the right hand side of each post.

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They appear to be Silver Indian One Rupee coins.
These were used as currency in the early days of Australian settlement and are now known as "Proclamation Coins" in Australia .

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 Posted 10/23/2013  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are not Indian rupees. They are too small and lightweight for rupees; rupees like the one trout posted and fmcc89 linked to should weigh around 11 grams. At "between 4.5 and 4.9 grams", they might be half-rupees, though even that seems too light. But I believe these pieces are older than the rupees posted so far.

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The size and weight appears about right for 1/2 Tanka or Falus from the 1400's - Hopefully drnsreedhar will chip in and tell us the name on the coin or even what they are.
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These coins are 'similar' in appearance and inscription, to some Indian coins that I have , however the size has me concerned because mine are only 10mm to 11mm across and only 1mm thick and weigh only .5 gm. Mine are silver and were sold to me as 'Habbarinds' from 850 AD to 975 AD during the reigns of 'Umar', 'Abdallah 1', 'Abd al Rahman', 'Ali', and 'Ahmad'.
I hope that this gives you a 'reference point.
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Some photos of my coins to add to my 'reply'.

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 Posted 02/20/2014  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps these are better photos (same coins)

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Willard this might help with the pictures, if you use picasa for you images you can do all sorts to enlarge an image etc. Or if you own a scanner use that, scanners are really good for coins. If you do have a scanner import the image after, and your resolution will be crystal clear even when you zoom in loads. Hope this helps, and that's a great find. Is this your first dive discovery?
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