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The Restored Smackdown XII: Animals

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 Posted 12/10/2013  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Number 1: Diadumenian

I have chosen this coin because the reverse is unusual. details are sharp and the patina is green green
Won it at an auction on ebay, not very cheap but I couldnt let this coin go. Diadumenian ruled for a very short time, I like the large coins minted under his rule.

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Region : MOESIA INFERIOR
City : Marcianopolis
Issuer : Macrinus and Diadumenian
Denomination : Pentassarion
Diameter : 26.5 mm
Obverse Description : Laureate head of Macrinus right facing bare-head of Diadumenian left
Reverse Description : Snake in four coils with head erect, E left
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 Posted 12/10/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Number 2:

Olbia Dolphin Money +/- 500-400 b.c.
I know very little about this money, denomination is almost impossible.

The reason why I like it? Its so old and unusual, The coin IS animal I bought a lot of 3 Olbia coins minted in Sarmatia.
The price was right and my goal is to create a wide collection of special, unusual and beautiful ancient coins. So there was space for 2 of such dolphin coins.



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 Posted 12/10/2013  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reminder-- to qualify for the big bonus points you must address ALL of the questions listed in the rules. Just so you know ;-)
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 Posted 12/10/2013  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn... I also planned to post an Olbia dolphin coin, which I guess would be redundant now. That said, Dutchgulden, your Olbia dolphin is by far the best example I've ever seen yet (including on auction photos).
As far as I know/remember (I hadn't fully identified some of my ancients, and on one or two there might be animal-related details off-flan or worn away), if humans and satyrs don't count as animals, my only other ancient with an animal on it is a Fallen Horseman coin - one of the cruder officials... I can barely see the figure that is supposed to be the horse, and would never have identified it as a horse if I didn't know already. (Oh, and I also got it pretty randomly in one of the earlier smackdowns - heck, I didn't even know it was a Fallen Horseman until I received it - so there's no cool acquisition story either.) So I suspect I'll be staying off at this particular smackdown
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 Posted 12/11/2013  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ostrogothic Kingdom
AE Follis
Obv: IMVICT-A ROMA, Roma helmeted, facing right
Rev: Eagle standing left, facing right, XL to left, [dot II dot] in ex
Rome mint, struck 494-534 AD
Ref: BMC 11, Notes: Municipal coinage of Rome

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1. I sought this type out because I am a passionate collector of Ostrogothic and other Dark Ages coinage. More specifically, its one of my favorite types from the Ostrogothic series, so I just had to have it Plus it having an eagle touches the bird lover in me (I have a parrot).

2. As mentioned before, I really enjoy collecting from this culture so I am always on the look out for any Ostrogothic coin that I have a chance of getting. For this one though I had put in some extra effort when I was searching for any Ostrogoth coins and found it being offered on a lightly traveled part of the internet. I snatched it up immediately. This was the first one I found (out of like three I've seen in total for sale) that wasn't hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

3. I searched to no avail for the reason for the eagle depicted on the Ostrogoths' coinage. I'm guessing it had to do with the eagle's old symbolic role as the protector of the Roman legions of centuries past (and by extension, of the Roman people and state). This fits in with King Theodoric's desire to respect and protect classical Roman culture. I'm probably wrong, and Theodoric just simply liked birds
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12/11/2013 01:04 am
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 Posted 12/11/2013  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VK spectacular patina. Same for Dutch on the Diadumenian, and that is the prettiest dolphin.
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Ostrogothic Kingdom
AE Half-Follis
Obv: IMVICT-A ROMA, Roma helmeted, facing right
Rev: She-wolf suckling Romulus and Remus, two stars above, XX (for "20 [nummi]") below
Rome mint, struck 494-534 AD
Ref: BMC 30, Notes: Municipal coinage of Rome

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1. Same as the first part of my other answer for this question. I just love me mah Ostros

2. Was browsing for Ostrogothic coins like I normally do and I found it up on auction. I thought it was going to be a bidding battle for it so I figured there was going to be only a slight chance of me winning it at a price I was comfortable with. To my surprise I ended up being the only bidder . Before that I only had a worn down full 40 follis version of this type.

3. This type I'm very certain was an attempt by the Ostrogoths to celebrate ancient Roman culture, by depicting Romulus and Remus being suckled by a she-wolf (central to the legend of the founding of Rome).
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12/11/2013 1:39 pm
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 Posted 12/11/2013  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am loving these coins here.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to vote.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too hard, they are all brilliant

Gold Maridvnvm silver drachm
Silver Martivilori Zeugitania
Bronze Augustus1 Cretan Goat
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 Posted 12/13/2013  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gold- Warren-Goat of Crete
Silver-Martin-Youth Wrestling Bull
Bronze-Jeff- IMVICTA-ROMA


All three of my choices were contenders for the Gold.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A bit hard to vote really...

Gold: ValiantKnight's IMVICTA ROMA
Silver: Ancientnoob's Zebu bulls
Bronze: Dutchgulden's dolphin
just barely missed: augustus1's Cretan goat

It's a bit funny (and unfortunate): Dutchgulden had got a coin recently (a few hours before the smackdown ended) that, had it been his[1] entry (together with the dolphin), would've propelled him into the clear gold position. Alas, he decided to enter early.



[1] if I'm incorrect, sorry
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 Posted 12/13/2013  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha thank you for your vote january, I'm sorry about the dolphin, like you said, you had the same idea to post.

My votes:
Gold: daviduk Pegasis
Silver: maridvnvm larissa drachm
Bronze: pish owl

All excellent coins, like a lot of other entry's!
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 Posted 12/13/2013  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Im sorry about the dolphin, like you said, you had the same idea to post.
I have no problem about the dolphin (I certainly wouldn't have wanted you to ignore yours because I posted mine!)
I said that I didn't "get" the other coin (and suggested a certain coin you recently acquired as a theoretical replacement entry; you could probably guess which one). IIRC Diadumenian is your speciality, though, so it's somewhat understandable that you chose a coin of him
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 Posted 12/13/2013  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha ah you mean my Nimes Dupondius right? Well the problem is that I hadnt received it yet by the post so it would be a shape to post it while there was still a chance that I never received it. Fortunaly, it came by the post 2 days ago! To late to change my entry's
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