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Looking For Help With This 1799

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Hi everyone I am looking for any information about this coin. grade and value would be a bonus thanks

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Its a halfpenny or a farthing - we'd need the diameter to tell, they're identical. The grade would be around VG on the british scale, but we do it very objectively, so someone else would probably give you a better idea. Unfortunately, these are very common and exist in all grades - no value will be listed for this grade, but id suspect a dollar - In England, the last of these I bought was 20p. They are everywhere. But dont let that deter you, its a nice issue and a good pre 1800 coin. Look at the edge, its got some interesting engrailing.

Information about the issue: There was a big shortage of chsnge in Britain in the late 1780s and early 1790s - merchants issued their own to make up for this. Eventually, in 1797, the mint issued 1d and 2d coins, and then in 1799, 1/2d and 1/4d coins, in massive quantity. This reestablished the cionage and merchant tokens fell from use - they issued so many that they didnt have to issue copper coins again until 1806.
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wow thank you very much for that, instant knowledge around here, haha! It is a nice coin to look at, and cool that it's pre 1800. Coin is approx 30mm dia. and weighs approx 12.5 grams. Thanks for your help
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Mine is not even worth the time to dig it out and photo it (on second thought mine are 1807 1/2 pennies) I'm no good with the grading numbers but I'll give a shot at history and such.... now were is that 1982 Krause of mine...

King George III reigned from 1760-1820, he was the one with the bad eyesight according to John Hancock. Crazy old King George talked to trees and had some major problems:


Quote:
A letter received by novelist E. M. Frostier from his aunt, Marine Thornton, describes the situation: "... there he was sitting on the Throne with his King's Crown on, his robes scarlet and ermine, and held his speech written out for him, just what he had to say. But, oh dear, he strode up and made a bow and began "My Lords and Peacocks'. The people who were not fond of him laughed, the people who did love him cried, and he went back to be no longer a king, and his eldest son reigned in his stead".

-from a web site


I'm not going to post outside sites for this, look up George III if you want to read more about Mad King George.

The coin you have is showing in my old Krause as a 1/2 penny only minted in 1799, there are several different varieties, there are no mintage numbers. Prices are listed from $3-$65, but that is from my 1982 edition, before they split the centuries into different books. I am not seeing a full penny minted in 1799, but that is Krause for you, it seems like the diameter of the half penny and the penny are almost the same, 30mm for the 1/2 and 32-33mm on the penny size, again my reference is old and Krause is notorious, almost as bad as ebay at times.

Hope this helps, the coin is in great shape definitely a keeper
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It definitely helps, thank you. Also very interesting. I am thinking it must be a 1/2 as it is 30mm almost exactly. I am very interested to know of any varieties known anyone? Thanks
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5 incuse gunports, 6 raised, 7 raised, 9 raised, plain hull, raised line on hull for the currency types plus a proof. Then you have nearly 20 individual varieties of Soho struck patterns of which some of these varieties are also found in different metals. Then you have another four types of Taylor retrikes.
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