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Is It Possible To Verify A PCI Coin Number?

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I've checked their website and don't see any place to verify a certification. Maybe I missed it. I sent them an email last week with no response, and I just placed a call to them. Thanks. ed
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Can't seem to find one either.
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No; they've been through too many generations of ownership to have any records continuity. Are they back in business? Last I knew they were owned by David Lawrence and trading as DGS, and that iteration closed a while back.
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I'm not sure if they are in business, but they seem to have a website and a machine answered when I called

Thanks for the replies. Ed
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Their website looks to have been updated in late september of 2012. Its hard to tell if theyve done anything with it since then but it does look like someones trying to bring it back.
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They are back or at least were for awhile. (There have been two different PCI owners since DGS closed down.) I turned up two new PCI slab varieties at the Michigan State Show last November. Label design very similar to the DGS labels, nothing like the older PCI labels. Same style obv label but with two different hologram styles on the reverse.

PCI has gone out of business the first time before the idea of on-line certificate verification came along, and I would imagine the current owner probably doesn't have access to all the records of all the previous owners so I wouldn't see it happening. Even if they did you still have the problem of at least four possibly five certificate numbering styles.
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No online database available to verify a certification.
That's mainly why they never received the ebay "blessing".
Same with SEGS.
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Even if they did you still have the problem of at least four possibly five certificate numbering styles.


Not to mention, "Would you really want to stake your rep on certifying the contents of those slabs?"
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Considering how bad some of the grading was under some of the owners, no I wouldn't.


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No online database available to verify a certification.
That's mainly why they never received the ebay "blessing".
Same with SEGS.

Larry Briggs tels me that SEGS will soon have an on-line certificate verification. How soon is soon? I don't know.
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Not to mention, "Would you really want to stake your rep on certifying the contents of those slabs?"


That my friend is the LEAST of the problems. You pick a numbering scheme that allows you to ID your new-coke coins and put up a page on any old-coke request "We're sorry, that certificate predates our NEW and IMPROVED PCI and we are unable to verify the certificate. However, send it into us to review and re-encapsulate and mention code "NewCoke" for a $5 per coin discount"
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http://www.segsgrading.com/Products...nLookup.aspx

Is Now Available To Verify Certification Numbers For SEGS
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Nice.
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OK so now SEGS has an online certification verification. Now how soon, or will ebay allow them to be listed as "certified"?
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