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Unfortunately I agree with all above (aside of one....) the coin is undoubtably fake. The details are very mushy and it doesn't look quite right even if the date was correct. But obviously being the date is way off none of the other problems matter much.. I'd definitley talk to your buddy and get a refund. If you don't mind me asking what did he charge you for it? I hope he didn't sell it as a rare "error"...
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get a refund from your friend and remember that fakes have been around for a long time.
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Maybe...but it is not in the best condition, definitely has been circulated... Made to look that way. The fact that it LOOKS like it circulatedcalms the suspicions of some people. Same reason why the counterfeit british halp peance and evasion pieces in the 1700's were made to look worn. If they looked like they had circulated for some time people were more likely to accept them for payment, "after all other people had obviously accepted them" |
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I usually don't post about coins, like this one, that are obvious definite counterfeits. However, it disturbs me to see any posts that 'wonder' or 'hope' the coin isn't a counterfeit. Anyone looking at and considering a purchase of a coin, such as this one, should spend at least 2 minutes to research what they're buying.
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(Coin Collectors) ... should spend at least 2 minutes to research what they're buying. I agree with this statement on principle, but reality proves otherwise. Advanced collectors have more resources, more tools, but newbies tend to do more impulse buying. Then too, being a fairly advanced collector, some of my best buys at shows have been bought on impulse. Over the years, I've seen many a dealer who was duped as well. Granted, the fake that initiated this thread was an obvious fake to experienced collectors. but we all should admit that there surely was a time when we lacked any knowledge of such pieces, ourselves. The OP deserves some credit here for bringing the piece to question here in the CCF - a great online resource, eh what?  P.S. - Good point, Condor, re the intentionally deceptive appearance of this fake. |
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Show me any silver dollar dated between 1805 and 1839 and I'll tell you why it's fake
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Show me any silver dollar dated between 1805 and 1839 and I'll tell you why it's fake The Gobrecht silver dollars fall between those years, and they're not fakes. |
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When your right your right having never held one or shopped for one completely forgot about them
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The rim is too wide. It looks like a medallion. The dentils look like beading instead of ribs. The stars are flawed. And then there's the date problem.
What does it weigh?
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/31/2014 07:49 am
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Quote:The Gobrecht silver dollars fall between those years, and they're not fakes. Some of them are.  I wonder what he would say about the 1805 dollar that fooled several specialists back in the 1950's including the man who wrote the book on the series. |
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OR at the US Mint back in 1807 there was this guy that could see into the future, a Clairovoyant. He sat down at made a die for those coins that would appear sometings in the future hoping to me known as the inventer of that design. He made a few, circulated them to see how the public would accept them as a coin for the future.  Imagine if that were possible. Sure would be nice to see coins to be made in about 2050 or further. |
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Thanks confer 101 and if he were to run across one I'm sure it would. Although I cherry picked a 16/16 buffalo and they think there's only 250 to 400 of those around.
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Yes, fakes of the Gobrecht dollars are out there. I bought a few at the flea market for $5, each. I sent one to a collector buddy who once told me that it was his favorite coin design; this, while pining that he 'd likely never own one. I added the other specimen to my own "black cabinet." Despite the fact that there are fakes of the Gobrecht dollars, it doesn't change the fact that the U.S. Mint did strike genuine dollars between the years 1805-39. |
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