Removing CAC Sticker On A Plus Coin: PCGS Reconsideration ?

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AlexanderBiwald New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 02/14/2014 04:15 am I have a coin that is currently in a MS66+ CAC PCGS holder, in which I strongly feel the coin can upgrade to a MS67. I just don't want the graders to feel as if it has a CAC sticker on it, there is no chance for an upgrade. What should I do? Leave it on or take it off? What do you guys think will increase the odds of an upgrade? Report this Post to the Staff

rupester Pillar of the Community United States 1300 Posts	Posted 02/14/2014 04:36 am No superstar in this field but isn't cac the end all for certification coins ironically just had this conversation on a dmpl morgan at the coin shop today a coin that was resubmitted three times for regrade to upgrade and it did receive it everytime be interesting to see what happens here Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/14/2014 05:43 am CAC is just another TPG grader and TPG graders have made mistakes before...just sayin' John1 Report this Post to the Staff
DavidZerbato Pillar of the Community United States 1081 Posts	Posted 02/14/2014 08:59 am I believe a CAC sticker doesn't mean the coin is the actual grade given, but means the coin is at least that grade or the high end for that grade, if that makes sense. CAC won't assign the grade it actually thinks the coin is. If a true MS67 coins is slabbed MS66 it should most definitely receive a CAC sticker. I would leave it on, as if I was a grader, it would mean I better look closely at this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 02/14/2014 10:15 am In truth (depending on potential value loss) I'd still lean towards cracking and submitting it raw. We have no way of knowing what the internal attitude at PCGS is towards CAC; they could just as easily be angry and spiteful as they could be intimidated by them. Yes, the Bean should cause them to seriously reconsider the grade - a 66+ which (by CAC definition) is "good for the grade" should be worth a serious look as a 67. But if you're looking for a 67 where one does not yet exist - and I think that's your situation - it's probably easier for PCGS to imagine that first 67 as coming from a coin they've never seen before than being one they already had and didn't grade that way. Of course, if it's currently in a newer slab they probably have a detailed-enough record of it to know they've seen it before, and they're not likely to create new wealth in that fashion. It's a crapshoot, however you do it. Report this Post to the Staff
Cruisinfusion Pillar of the Community United States 1531 Posts	Posted 04/15/2014 9:25 pm I hate to revive threads, but I'm curious. How did this turn out? Submitted raw, etc? Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 04/15/2014 11:21 pm You are not going to get an answer from the OP, he was caught posting stolen images of high end coins the he purported to own. Report this Post to the Staff
Cruisinfusion Pillar of the Community United States 1531 Posts	Posted 04/17/2014 01:21 am Uh, oh. Report this Post to the Staff
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