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Pillar of the Community
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It looks like the "real" Kennedy is trying to appear in spots on the reverse. Maybe plated but also maybe some kind of previous enamel job thus the scratches in that finish.
I think it needs a nice comfortable soak in acetone. It won't harm the coin but it may dissolve the finish...obviously it won't change if it's plated
Just a thought....
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Seems like an odd coin to "fake". But it does look like someone did something weird to it like testing some sort of finish or plating.
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That's almost 20% underweight for clad and 25% for silver. As such, not a chance it's real unless it's a wrong-planchet strike; I'll look into the potential differing planchets from that period but no optimism is expressed. How does it compare in terms of diameter and thickness to a "real" Kennedy?
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The issue is it only weighs 9.5 grams, I don't think its real, possible stamped on another plachet? Acetone did nothing. What other plachet weighs 9.5 grams anyone know? Hey thanks for the input. Its a mystery to me. Would be cool if its a Kennedy on some other plachet.
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what is the thickness?
I had heard of half plachet's being cut out of metal stock meant for quarters.
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Edited by arby96 03/01/2014 2:08 pm
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Odd, this. I'd think the reduced diameter - had it actually been struck at the Mint - would manifest itself in incomplete reeding. How does the reeding look to you, arby96?
The only decent potential wrong planchet candidate I could come up with was the 1972 (dated) Haiti 50 Centimes, at a weight of 10g. That's a Cu-Ni alloy, though, and not clad. This one has more the look of a clad, impaired Proof.
I'm beyond my expertise here, and unwilling to offer anything based upon personal certainty. My gut feeling is this one's a counterfeit - contrary to belief, the smart counterfeiters create cheap coins that nobody questions. Given the acceptance of US currency worldwide, it could be this one was never intended to see America's shores, but simply to be used as "real American" coinage overseas. For that, it doesn't have to be perfect, just believable.
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What does it sound like when you drop it? What is the obverse / reverse orientation? I am still going with it's a Magicians coin (even though I don't see the tell tale seam on the reverse rim).
Edited by jack jeckel 03/01/2014 5:48 pm
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It sounds very much like a regular coin a little higher pitch. I am an amateur magician and have multiple coins tricks and have never come across anything like this. I have a half magicians ring and attempted to open it. It does not sound hallow it is solid. Here is the pic I took of the rim. If nothing else it is interesting. Also the there is no rotation on the reverse, it is the same as a regular half.    I added a second photo? Brass or Copper? That is my question, one can see some greenish corrosion?
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Edited by arby96 03/01/2014 7:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Definitely looks plated based on the edge reeding as well as thinner than normal.
Does the edge reeding spacing match up to a normal 1971 half if you stack them on top if each other?
If not then it may have been sawed in half and the reeding recut to hide the seam.
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I just compared the reeding to another 71 and they match up well. There is no evidence of the coin being sawed in half. When I make my next order for graded coins I will just include this one. I would be very surprised it comes back as a Genuine coin. Thank you to all whom have replied. If anyone else has any ideas please feel free to weigh in. Thanks again.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it is genuine and if you want to fork over the cash to a TPG it will simply come back "Altered Surface"
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I would like to hear the results on this one. I roll hunt also and have never seen anything like it. When I can not explain it, I keep it.
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A half dollar struck on quarter thickness stock comes in at around 9 grams. There is someone on one of the boards I frequent who has turned up at least three of them so far roll searching (he has had at least one certified as on quarter stock) They have all been 1971 half dollars. Looks like some one decided to mess up a half dollar by plating it and happened to select an actual mint error to do it on.
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This one has me stumped? Its a keeper for now.
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