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numisma2000 New Member Spain 6 Posts	Posted 03/01/2014 2:14 pm I leave a Japanese Yen to see if anyone can tell me something about the chopmark and condition you see. 1-JAPAN YEN, 1886. KM #: Y 28A.1 Country: Japan Year: 1886 Season: Year 19 of the Meiji (October 23, 1868 - July 30 de 1912) was Emperor Mutsuhito. Mint: Osaka Face value: 1 Yen Metal: Silver 900 thousandths Weight: 26.96 grams Diameter: 38.1 mm Circulation: 9,084,262 Front: Dragon within a circle of beads. Sign å¤§ æ—¥æœ¬ Â· æ˜Žæ²» å.«å¹´ (MEIJI Year 28). Facial down value. Reverse: Face value in Japanese Kanji åœ† (YEN) within a wreath of chrysanthemums (Imperial Seal of Japan) Report this Post to the Staff

ASLAN TVorlon Pillar of the Community United States 1234 Posts	Posted 03/01/2014 3:04 pm My first Impression would be that it's a counter stamp. I have seen oriental coins with counter stamps from Russian or other occupations. Just a guess, the guru's will be along shortly. Edit: Wonderful description, seems you already have tons of info. Edited by ASLAN TVorlon 03/01/2014 3:08 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coinworldtv Pillar of the Community Austria 566 Posts	Posted 03/01/2014 6:56 pm ...this type of coins were heavily exported to China, I do not think, that there are any Russian chopmarks here. Report this Post to the Staff
ASLAN TVorlon Pillar of the Community United States 1234 Posts	Posted 03/01/2014 7:49 pm True they look like Chinese symbols but I was suggesting this might be a counter stamp from occupation, the Russians do it to the Chinese coins then the Chinese do it to the Japanese coins. If you look at the 'Official "Post a Counterstamp" thread....' https://goccf.com/t/126486 You will see many 'Garage Jobs' by 3rd part stampers, it would be hard to assume that this is not done in the orient as well. Report this Post to the Staff
wheatiefan Pillar of the Community United States 507 Posts	Posted 03/02/2014 09:07 am to CCF! These are referred to as 'chopmarks', not 'counterstamps'. The chopmarks were done by merchants to test if the coin was solid silver or only plated. There are some issues to beware of: 1. Sometimes these marks are applied fraudulently. As in obtaining a genuine coin from the 1800s and stamping it in 2014 as if it were stamped in the 1800s. This is often seen when the stamps add significant value to the host coin. There is at least one ebay seller from Spain who engages in this fraudulent practice. 2. Some coins are not genuine in the first place, but stamps are applied to distract the collector from examining the coin too closely. If the coin 'doesn't look right' the collector assumes it is due to the stamps, although the host coin is truly a worthless forgery. Your coin's value is not significantly enhanced by the chopmarks, so they are probably not added 120 years later. If your coin is not magnetic and has the appropriate diameter and weight I would consider it a genuine chopmarked coin. -wheatiefan Report this Post to the Staff
numisma2000 New Member Spain 6 Posts	Posted 03/02/2014 10:31 am First of all , thank you very much for the welcome and the response. I'm from Spain but the currency is purchased in the U.S. , is an ebay seller with 100 % positive feedback and almost 70,000 sales by what looks like a reputable seller . The coin does not stick to a magnet. It weighs 26.87 grams. It measures a little more than official , about 38.7 mm or so. Not if these small differences in measurements and weights are normal in these currencies or are indicative of forgery. Let's see if we can clarify, no fence unless the currency in the end, is false. By the way , wheatiefan, can you give me the pen on ebay selling fraudulent Spain ? you can do it privately if you feel better . thanks Report this Post to the Staff
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