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Are Coins Cleaned At All?

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 Posted 03/02/2014  10:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello:

I am somewhat of a newbie to coin collecting and I know one is not suppose to clean a coin at all, which I follow, but all to often I find old coins that look pretty close to excellent.

Am I to believe that some old coins are not cleaned?

Is there a way to 'properly' clean coins?

I see old coins (wheat pennies) for ex. on ebay graded by PCGS that look amazing for 100 year old coins.

Any expert help or advice is appreciated in general about cleaning.
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 Posted 03/02/2014  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollsearcher37 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some old coins have been well preserved over the years and have original color, but many have also been dipped and/or cleaned. If there wasn't any notation on the PCGS slabs, such as questionable color or a "details" grade, they must have felt the color was original and it hadn't been cleaned. Most coins that have been cleaned have an overly bright appearance or have visible "hairlines".

I have never cleaned a coin and don't plan on it. The safest way I know of is to use Acetone, but I only recommend this for a coin that might be improved by the treatment, such as one that has glue stuck to it. In general though, NEVER clean a coin. It can permanently damage it and its value. People would rather buy an original, uncleaned coin than one that has been cleaned.

If you have a coin you are not sure about, my advice is to leave it.

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 Posted 03/02/2014  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The default assumption should be that any century-old coin which still looks brand-new has been cleaned/"preserved" in some fashion in the past. This not the perfect truth - many have absolutely been held with sufficient care to naturally preserve them - but all the same a whole bunch have been artificially treated as well. If the look is that of a naturally-preserved coin, the market tolerates it. Very difficult to tell anyway.

There are certain specific cases where it's appropriate to do something about conserving a coin. PVC plasticizer "infections" must be arrested. Coins which have been taped should probably have the tape residue removed. Ancients. Dug coins. The reason for the "never clean coins" advice is that these are all case-by-case decisions, different for every coin and it takes a certain level of knowledge/judgment to determine a worthy candidate.
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Also depends on what is called cleaning. For example many people spit on their fingers and rub a coin with that to see the date better. Some people just wash off dirt from coins they found on the ground. There are those that just want to keep their coins clean so they wash them. Some dealers dip coins to make them look new so they sell better. People on ebay do things like that all the time. Some collectors purposely clean coins to make a set look pretty. Many kids clean coins for that reason too and they use almost anything to do that with. Tons of coins are dumped in pools, wells, etc. to make wishes with and since they are now in water, when they come out they sort of get cleaned a little also.
As I said it all depends on what you mean by cleaning.
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If there wasn't any notation on the PCGS slabs, such as questionable color or a "details" grade, they must have felt the color was original and it hadn't been cleaned.

Or it is "market acceptable". There are plenty or older US coins that have been cleaned or have problems that were slabbed as "problem free" back in the years before they had the details slabs. The TPG's were much more forgiving on 18th and early 19th century material than they were on late 19th and 20th century coins.
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IMO, almost ALL old coins have been "cleaned" at some point - most likely inadvertently. The only question to ask - can you detect it?
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