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winterfell Valued Member United States 231 Posts	Posted 03/29/2014 5:23 pm I bought a 1898 Russian 5 Rouble recently from a very reputable dealer. The coin looks great to me, but as it is a very expensive purchase for me, I still wanted to check weight/dimensions just to make sure everything was good. Weight was 4.27, which is fine I think, but when I searched for what the correct diameter and thickness was supposed to be, I got conflicting information. Mine seems about 18 mm or a bit more, but different websites list the diameter of the 1897-1911 5 Rouble as 18, 18.7, 19, and 21 mm! Does anyone know what the diameter is supposed to be for an 1898 5 rouble? Also, why there would be conflicting measurements (all of these were from major coin info sites or coin dealer sites) Did diameters vary by year or even within a year, and if so by how much is acceptable. I know they changed the weight after 1895 I believe, and presumably the size, which might account for some confusion on some of the sites? Secondly, sometimes I see people referring to Krause diameters. I have a Krause Standard catalog of world coins 1801-1900 (2nd edition) but there is no information on diameter or thickness in there), so where is this information found? I searched for other coins of this period as well, and had no trouble finding weights, but diameter and thickness info is often hard to find. Any suggestions on the web or books for finding this type of information, particularly for late 19th, early 20th Century coins would be very much appreciated. Report this Post to the Staff

Jupke Valued Member Belgium 83 Posts	Posted 03/30/2014 05:56 am In case of discrepancies, it is always good to look for past auctions of the coin. Check following website: http://www.mcsearch.info/search.htm...3&c=&a=&l=#8 It is a respectable and well known auction house, that has defined the diameter as being 19 mm. In the Krause world catalog (edition 2012), no diameter is given. Only recently Krause has started to update all types with their diameters. In a russian coins catalog (Yanin, edition 1992), I found 3 different varieties: - Medallic alignment with mintmastermark (A en reversed L; located in the edge inscription) - Coin alignment with mintmastermark (A en reversed L; located in the edge inscription). Very rare !! - No edge inscription (smooth edge) and therefore without mintmastermark. Scarce! However, it should be noted that gold coins of the russian empire are often counterfeited. Although the weight is correct, it is good to have the gold tested at a jeweler. I have a counterfeit 10 roubles of 1899 in my collection. Report this Post to the Staff
winterfell Valued Member United States 231 Posts	Posted 03/30/2014 12:30 pm Thank you very much, Jupke! That clears up my Krause confusion, and I didn't know about that site, it is now bookmarked! I found the auction you mentioned stating 19mm, but a few more auctions down there was one listing the diameter as 18mm! Oh well, I guess between 18 and 19 is good. My coin then has the correct weight and dimension, looks great, and was bought from a reputable source, so I'm not worried about it. It is the common medallic alignment type of the three you mentioned. Out of curiosity, how did you know your 10 roubles counterfeit was a counterfeit? Report this Post to the Staff
Jupke Valued Member Belgium 83 Posts	Posted 04/01/2014 4:01 pm After an off-weight measurement, I had it tested at a juweler to define the gold in it. Appeared to be a cupper alloy instead of gold. But don't worry, it was purchased in a junk lot of several kilo's. No markings were made on the actual coin to make clear it was a copy. Report this Post to the Staff
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