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Pillar of the Community
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Does anyone know the relative percentage of uncirculated Franklins that have full bell lines? Like for the most common FBL dates?
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Pillar of the Community
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I'd assume a descent amount. Maybe 15%-40% but I'm not an expert.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Depends on the date and mint. It's pretty good for most but 53 s fbls are basically non existent.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd love to get my hands on one of the FBL 53 s.
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Pillar of the Community
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Being a franklin collector, I havent chased the FBL designation that hard BUT I do look for them on key dates. It does make me wonder if anyone does chase FBL MS63 and above and how good they have done. I am going to do a thorough inspection of my coins today and see what I have. Perhaps we could get a few members to post a few of the FBL Ben's up I usually check my franklins for rpm and doubling and a few of the lesser known doubled dies and since its still relatively inexpensive to put together a MS grade collection of franklins thats been my goal as it has been with my entire collection.
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Valued Member
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I have looked through every resource I have and cannot find a list by date and MM of an estimated percentage of coins in FBLs. I can tell you a few things to keep in mind on particular dates if you are interested. 1. As Basebal stated, the 53 S is the tough nut to crack in FBL. I have only seen a couple (none raw) 2. Other "mushy" strikes include (but not limited to according to printed resources) 51S, 52S, 53P, and 54S. 3. Be patient on all the later Philly coins, say from 58 and forward. They can be found in FBL but patience to find a great strike that is not baggy is important. 4. Don't trust your naked eye on FBL. Always use a loop. Be really stingy with your assessment near the bell crack. This is a place that shows alot of weakness in many coins. 5. Remember that a nick or gouge going across the lines can keep a TPG from designating as FBL. A strong strike and clean lines are needed for designation. I hope this helps. |
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Well the whole FBL is what got me going this morning rooted through and I believe all lower 7 lines of the bell make the FBL designation..and similar to a FS nickel the bell lines cannot have bag marks scuff scratches swamp gas from mars or any other nicks dings and wangs to get this and of course the lines have to be "countable" this sound right? Just kinda a way similar to a nickel to say MS65 FBL or ms65 FS this is my thoughts from my googling and book reads this morning
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Valued Member
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That sounds accurate. It takes a good strike to bring all the bell lines up. Weakness seems most prevalent on the bottom lines near the crack. It is the first sign you may or may not have a FBL coin. It is a STARTING place for me. You still have to check the remainder of the lines and other qualities you are looking for. ie. On the type 2 58 and 59 Philly coins, I personally like to see a well struck eagle with definition in the head and neck area. But now I am just getting picky.
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Bedrock of the Community
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and similar to a FS nickel the bell lines cannot have bag marks scuff scratches swamp gas from mars or any other nicks dings and wangs to get this and of course the lines have to be "countable" this sound right? Theres some leeway on bag marks as long as it doesn't destroy the separation of the two lines. One of the problems with trying to determine how many should have it is that no one can universally agree on it. Theres a lot of them that on any given day could go either way. The ones that mirror the proof strikes where it slaps you in the face as an FBL from across the room without magnification arent all that common, so you end up with a decent amount that you can make arguments for either way. |
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I own a 1951 D FBL recent LCS pickup for 27 bucks bought it as a hole filler in my franklin BU collection anyone wanna see a puc? I logged some serious numismania time in today though my 64d 502 was a die break die gouge I wish it was alot cooler coin.... I did get to see a coopstyle amazing lincoln mailout and it has changed my outlook..yea call me a wimp sissy or someone who doesn't take criticism well.... Well for as many times as I've been wrong when I am right it makes up for it... So mr 1951 s here ya go enjoy a not only once but 7 times confirmed rpm well give me a minute for some of my awesome frank pics... Or should we all start a post your best franklins thread? I am throwing the challenge out there people!!
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04/10/2014 10:48 pm
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Rupester, I have no idea what your last post meant past you bought a great franklin... I am up for a puc (sic)...
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Pillar of the Community
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I do believe..i set a new record for bad grammar!! Hahaha I wonder..is there a world record for run on sentences!! Coins make me happy!! What a great hobby!! Three new bu franklins today 51s 54s and 56
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Posted 04/09/2014 10:32 pm
