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Advice Regarding Phillip III Arrhidaeus Drachma

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 Posted 04/15/2014  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pishpash: Thanks for the wildwinds refernces. I looked on that site and found plenty of Philip drachm, but not those, so it is nice to have an exact match. There is no weight marked on the slab, but I'm going to weigh it on our microbalance (one job perq!) at work after I free it. The slab does, however, mention the Colophon mint, just as P46 and P46.2 do. Incidentally, how is the mint identified? Is it the pi-alpha monogram on the left side of the reverse? That is the only thing that seems to vary on these coins.

RVFVS: Thanks for the advice, but the slab is pretty scratched and ugly, so I'd like to get it into a nicer hard 2x2. Additionally, I'd like to get a weight on the coin as well as some nicer pictures so that I can share them here. I rarely trade a coin I've spent this much on and I don't have much time to get to shows, which are rarer in my neck of the woods (which is why I like my LCS: he keeps an eye for things I'm searching for). I had never had the opportunity to purchase an ancient before, and the weight of history manifest in this specimen just spoke to me: I'm sure I'll have it for a long time (and possible a few more now)!

Thanks again, guys! I'll be back with more info soon.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better Pics!

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Still not a great photographer like many others around here, but I think this gives a pretty good idea of what it looks like in hand. Hope to be back tomorrow with a weight. Diameter is right around 18mm (it fits nicely in Guardhouse dime 2x2 with just a bit of daylight around the edges in some places).
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 Posted 04/15/2014  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, one more newbie (to ancients) question. I notice my coin matches the three wildwinds coins (P46, P46.1, P46.2) in its general design but it is not identical. The biggest difference I see is that on my coin, the tip of the eagle's tail is in line with and nearly touches the top left corner of the monogram whereas none of the other coins look like this. Is this simply due to a wide variety of dies being in use at the same mint?
Thanks for the information!
-Chris
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 Posted 04/16/2014  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are much nicer. I would suspect that slight variations might just be different dies? I can see why you were so set on getting this coin! I assume you have checked the edge and everything is ok.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a great little drachm. Very nice quality and interesting style on the Zeus reverse.
There will always be some variations in the coins unless you find an actual die match. Wildwinds has a nice selection of variations but it is a work in progress and you will not see every variation.
A great start to your new collection.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was pretty set on it! I've missed out on several nice coins at this shop because I wanted to think about it. Turns out that this time I just beat out another buyer who was also looking.

The weight is 4.26 grams which seems to be in line with the info I've seen (although there seems to be quite a bit of variation). As far as the edge goes it is smooth and rounded. I assume I should be looking for evidence of a casting like a seam?

Back to my US type set for now, but I'll still keep an eye out for an Alexander as was suggested (it would make a nice companion piece) especially if they are less expensive!

Thanks for spending some time with me here!
-Chris
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 Posted 04/16/2014  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin with excellent details.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I'm really happy with it. As I hold it in my hand, I still can't quite fathom that it was minted before the time of Christ!
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