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 Posted 04/28/2014  4:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Got this handed to me today. Since the sheet wasn't pulled that means there are more out there.

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 Posted 04/28/2014  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCM Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW!
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 Posted 04/28/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good thing I don't collect notes, I've been looking at this one for a while now and aside from the 6 zeros I see nothing going on with it.
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I've been looking at this one for a while now and aside from the 6 zeros I see nothing going on with it.


It's an error. The sheet should have been pulled, inspected, and then destroyed. All modern sheets of notes ending with 9999 and 0000 are checked for proper rollover of digits and replaced with stars.
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 Posted 04/28/2014  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Singer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not know this. Learn something new every day!
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 Posted 04/28/2014  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it had to do with the plate numbers. I didn“t know about this. Why would they destroy the sheet?
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 Posted 04/29/2014  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why would they destroy the sheet


They don't want to stop the whole process of printing currency so the sheets are pulled and replaced with star sheets so the process can continue. After the sheets are inspected they would be out of sequence if put back into the system so they are destroyed.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only person who goofed here is the OP who has not kept up on the latest printing technology being used by the BEP and is giving out bad information.

The BEP has started to employ the LEPE machines for numbering. Notes printed with this method will not have the 9999 and 0000 notes replaced by stars. Read the attached link for more information.

http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/lepe.html
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 Posted 04/29/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The only person who goofed here is the OP


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more information


I don't want to put Nickelman on the spot but this is a perfect example of how NOT to ask a question in the forum.

Posting one or a few pictures and being vague, coy and comical with out actually giving any real information on the subject is very annoying.

Yeah Ok the weird Serial Number jumps out and smacks me in the face but above the top number there is a spot... is that a spot of ink... was that supposed to be the GOOF? Is there something else I'm not seeing that someone else did see?

If the OP had been

"Check this out, I thought if the number ended in 9999 or 0000 it was pulled? Did someone goof?"

it would have made a lot more sense.

Tossing out the smallest amount of information and assuming everyone else sees what you see is a common problem.

I'd say more than half of the posts looking for information are unutterably vague, and the first or second reply is always the same...

"MORE INFO PLEASE"
"What are you seeing that everyone else is missing?"
"What is the size of the coin?"
"Can you say anything more than 'Hey check this one out'?"


I'm glad this one got figured out and I'm very glad to know about the numbers on older notes.

To be honest I had NINE teeth pulled last October and that was easier than finding out this minor tid-bit of info.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's an error. The sheet should have been pulled, inspected, and then destroyed. All modern sheets of notes ending with 9999 and 0000 are checked for proper rollover of digits and replaced with stars.


Looks like letow beat me to a reply.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nickelman

It's an error. The sheet should have been pulled, inspected, and then destroyed. All modern sheets of notes ending with 9999 and 0000 are checked for proper rollover of digits and replaced with stars.


And what's the reason a banknote can't ends with 9999 or 0000?
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 Posted 04/29/2014  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why because the U.S is having a hard time modernising its currency system.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ ASLAN TVorlon
https://goccf.com/t/176327#1626662

If I offended you in some way I apologize. My intent was to post a cool serial number I found not to ask any questions. In the process I learned something new for which I am grateful since I actually like learning new things. Please understand that we can't all be perfect and accept my humble apology for any discomfort I may have caused you.
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I don't understand yet why a banknote can't ends in 9999 or 0000, what's the big deal with that?
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 Posted 04/30/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Nickelman I got a bit heated there, I dabble in bills and like to check out this side of the hobby sometimes, I see it all over the place, people being vague, Sorry to vent my rant in your general direction.

Like you said this is a learning forum, and posting the best information you have up front is the best idea, I have put up "Hey Look at 'This'" type threads and not gotten great responses... live and learn...


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I don't understand yet why a banknote can't ends in 9999 or 0000, what's the big deal with that?


To sum up this is what I learned: the older notes were pulled when the numbers ended with 0000 or 9999 to do a quality check. but the quality has gotten better and the printers have gotten lazy so they don't do that any more, so if I find a bill from the 80's or before with a serial number ending in 0000 or 9999 I should hold onto it for dear life... but if it's a 2009 it's just another piece of paper that the government says if worth a certain amount.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't understand yet why a banknote can't ends in 9999 or 0000, what's the big deal with that?


I've always heard it explained like:

If you have an older car and it drives to a really round-numbered mileage, say 100000, chances are, the zeroes are not all going to line up. This is the same way with the serial numbers (prior to the COPE-LEPE switch). Rather than having to check every single 99999-000000 note, they were automatically pulled.
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