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Advice Selling Gold Stater

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 Posted 05/21/2014  4:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jennykemeny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. I inherited some gold coins collected by my parents many years ago - one gold coin for every country they visited. The most valuable is a Philip II gold stater. I also have a medieval gold guden (Mathias Corvinus.) I did have photos - on a hard drive that just crashed.... However I can take more if I can't recover the originals.

I live in a rural area and have not had them appraised. However they are in nicer condition than many I have seen on the internet.

I'd welcome advice about how to sell the coins. I am NOT interested in e-bay except as a last resort. Turn-around time is important,even if it increases commission fees. Needless to say, I want a trustworthy dealer. I'm willing to travel to the Boston or NYC area if appropriate.

Thanks for your help!

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We would be happy to look at your ancients coins. We can give you our opinions as to weather they are real or not. There are many auction houses that sell ancient coins. Heritage Auctions is one of the best.

Just keep in mind that per forum rules you are not allowed to sell your coins here until you meet the required posts and time as a member.
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 Posted 05/23/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jennykemeny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi - I now have photos of the coins mentioned.I'm new to coin photography so these aren't perfect; the surface wear on the stater is exaggerated compared to the original, and the carving is crisper than shown in this reduced image. Both coins are very bright gold. (This may be irrelevant to collectors, but I think the head is very handsome compared to many I've seen!) I'm not trying to sell them through the forum - just looking for advice as to where best to go for this type of coin, in a fairly short time frame. Thanks.

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 Posted 05/23/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins 2 and 4 seem to be the same, have you posted it twice? Were they bought in those mounts?
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 Posted 05/23/2014  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From your pictures I see what looks like cashing bubbles on the surface of the coin. I can't be sure if it's real or a copy made in jewelry. If you can take clearer pictures I might be able to tell more.
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I agree with echizento.
It must be borne in mind that these coins have been heavily faked, over many decades, and there are some VERY dangerous fakes about, especially the stater of Philip 11.

Pity about your time frame. You really should take your time to sell these, if they prove to be genuine.
These coins will require authentication before you decide to sell them. A leading auction house in New York should be able provide a highly regarded professional opinion. That's where the best professional experts on these coins are to be found.

I would never be tempted to lodge a bid on any significantly valuable coin on ebay, unless I knew of the reputation of the seller, and in the case of these coins, that reputation would have to be of the highest order. A mere check on feedback would simply not be good enough for me.

Evidence left behind from mounting will detract from their value.
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You may want to try PCGS Message Board for selling these coins. If it was me I would want to know more about the coins before trying to sell it.
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 Posted 05/24/2014  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jennykemeny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback. I haven't had the coins officially authenticated. We did take them to a large, registered coin dealer a couple of years ago. The next day they said they weren't interested in this category of coin (more focused on US coins) but made no mention of counterfeiting. But I will head down to Boston next week to get them seem.
This issue of casting bubbles is interesting. As you can see from the very detailed photo of the state (Not corrected for color, etc.) it has a fair amount of wear marks. Just for fun (?!) I went to vcoins and selected a couple of photos of gold staters. One is listed for $50,000, the highly worn piece for $880. Both have depressions. Assuming at least one of these is genuine how do you distinguish a casting bubble from a pressure mark on soft gold? Finally I'm attaching the missing obverse photos of the gulden.
I'll let you know what I find out!

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You are right! Your Hungarian gulden is Mathias Corvinus! The catalogue number is 534/C (Érmehatározó)
http://www.pannoniaterra.hu/tetel/14/294
(Echizento: this is an another medieval coin from Hungary! )
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They are more evident on the reverse, if you can take a large picture of it. They appear as tiny depressed and raised details in the metal. If this coin turns out to be real, whoever had it mounted in this fashion has caused damage to the coin.
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