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1911-D $2 1/2 Gold Authenticity Test......answered

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I previously posted here about a 1911-d and many were unaware of the diagnostics to look for. Just like the 1916 quarter, you don't need the date to be able to verify authenticity. In fact, in many cases, the "D" mintmark is invisible. The KEY diagnostics on ALL REAL 1911-d Indians is a series of marks on the edge of the rim above the "ES" in states and the "O" in of and a wavy rim edge above "TED" in united on the reverse. Below are some examples:
1. http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...6&lotNo=4731
2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-2-5-In...047675.l2557
3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360939823873?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=360939823873&_rdc=1
4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/371066802402?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html%3F_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=371066802402&_rdc=1

Knowing the diagnostics, can you hypothesize which of these is NOT a true 1911-d?
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While barely glancing at the coins, it's obviously #2
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So it's the third one...
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really? I am thinking #3.........though I am certainly not an expert here.
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I'm going with #3.
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Based on your diagnostics I'd say #3 is not real. However, it looks very real to me other then that so I am a bit confused and want to learn more!

Are the wavy lines only on the 1911-d?

I am wondering what the obvious signs are on all $2.5 and $5 Indians in general.

Edit- these are the focus of my collecting so any info would be extremely valuable to me! I think these are beautiful coins and hope I have good luck when buying them raw!
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I, too, am wondering about the signs on these coins in general
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I see that the right rim on #3 sticks out to far. The stars should be alot closer to the edge.
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After a quick search I see that those marks are on almost all of them (1911 D). But I don't see those lines on this coin.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-D-Indi...em1e8bbec48c
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Is that only on $2.50?
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I'm thinking #3

Using the high quality Heritage photo really shows the diagnostics you mention well.


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The correct answer is ..............#3. The seller mistakenly thinks his coin is a 1911-d weak "D". In fact it is just a regular authentic 1911. The marks are clearly absent on the reverse. On the other 3 coins, you can clearly see the reverse rim marks at the edge over the words TED and ES.O.

Jon, the coin in your link is a $5 1911-D gold Indian. Only the $2 1/2 1911-D Indian has the rim marks.

I hope this helps those that are looking to buy a 1911-D. You'd be amazed at how many ebay sellers have 1911-D's that they're listing as 1911. The diagnostic rim marks are ONLY present on 1911-D's
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Good call man! I missed the denomination on that on

SO on number #3 why does the right side of rim on reverse look oversized with the stars farther from the edge then normal?
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I just noticed that I didn't show what a real 1911-d (weak D) looks like:
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...1&lotNo=4582

You can see the tell-tale diagnostics on the reverse rim, but, no "D" is visible.
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"SO on number #3 why does the right side of rim on reverse look oversized with the stars farther from the edge then normal?"

Probably just the angle of the picture.

An interesting thing.....the 1922-d Lincoln Cent has a strong D, a weak D and a no D. The (no D) was still a Denver minted coin and is often referred to as a "plain". The (no D) is worth a lot of money because Philadelphia did not mint any cents in 1922......The 1911-D $2 1/2(weak D) is worth less than the strong D because Philadelphia did mint $2 1/2 Gold in 1911......if they hadn't, the 1911-D(weak D) would be worth a fortune.
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