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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Edited by shanew 05/25/2014 01:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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how much should it weigh?
Edited by Alexer 05/25/2014 01:32 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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2.83 grams pennyman007, Very interesting coin Shane,gotta be a wrong planchet I reckon,it's been struck & not eject properly ( probably due to the extra weight ) then the next coin was struck partially on top of this coin causing the indent error we see.
BTW do you still have my address info so you can send it to me when you have had your fun with it lololol.
Edited by appleangel07 05/25/2014 01:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Its an odd looking error, just about looks fake. IMO
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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wow pennyman I cant find anything don't tell me I have to toss this one also I just cant see how you could fake it and why would you its to thick and has a great hollow it cant be fake on to the bin s---t I am hopeless
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Sorry Shanew but I said "just about" not for sure. What I find suspicious is the sharpness of the outer rim in the indented area. Many fake errors come from China.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Could be an indent with partial brockage on wrong planchet,sounds pretty wild but thats what it looks like to me.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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he apple you are better then me at this I find the junk you guys work it out. I know it might have a record of errors.but it still looks great or a long description to long to wright on a label for a slab or just more junk for my dam
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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don't through in the dam,throw it into an envelope with my address on it hahahahahaha.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Might have been struck through a partial die cap on wrong planchet, I admit I know very little about the coins from OZ so I'm not familiar with the tolerances on weight and thickness.
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Pillar of the Community
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went into a usa site on error last night to try and work it out I thought partial die cap reverce brockage wrong planchet error what a mouth full
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is what I believe:
Rather than it being a partial brockage, this piece is a brockage from an elliptical clip. From 12 - 3 o'clock, the brockage doesn't cover the design rim, and even some of the field is still present. If it was a partial brockage from a fully struck coin, the field and rim would not be as fully struck as it is seen here. At about 2:30, the brockage also comes to a point, which is what you would expect to see from a brockage of a large elliptical clip.
In addition, as you have already noted, the planchet is heavy. I believe, rather than this being struck on a wrong (foreign, or other denomination) planchet, that it was actually struck on a rolled thick planchet. If you can find evidence that the Royal Australian mint produced a coin with these specifications (weight and alloy), than you will have an argument for this piece being struck on a foreign or other denomination planchet.
To summarize, I would call this a brockage from an elliptical clip, struck on a rolled thick planchet. It's certainly a rare combination of errors and a cool combination too.
I would consider posting this in the US error forum (though it is against the forum rules), as you will likely get many more opinions from individuals who specialize in errors.
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Canada
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Quote: I would call this a brockage from an elliptical clip, struck on a rolled thick planchet. Thats exactly what crossed my mind last night. Check the site error-ref.com
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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I have not had coffee yet wow what a mouthful will send them a email today
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Pillar of the Community
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this is the closest I could get
Counterbrockage/Clashed Cap Strike on mule planchet
Definition: This is one of the eight ways in which a brockage-counterbrockage error can be generated. In this scenario, an obverse die cap that is striking counterbrockages clashes with the reverse die when a planchet fails to be fed into the striking chamber. The working face of the die cap picks up an incomplete set of reverse design elements while, at the same time, some of the incuse, mirror-image elements on the working face of the cap are erased. The next planchet to be fed into the striking chamber after this event is left with a sharp, incomplete, unexpanded brockage and a scattering of counterbrockage elements THESE IMAGES ARE FROM error-ref.com with thanks they have a great site
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