Got Another Bunch Of Ancients Today

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january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5177 Posts	Posted 06/01/2014 11:27 am Okay. Six of those cost $6 each, three cost $4 each, for a total of $48. Only eight coins listed below, because one coin I thought was a rarity turned out to be common and unidentifiable (sure, it has pretty decent details, but like 80% of the legend is off the flan, and the rest is enough to identify the type but not the mint or ruler). A lot of the others are also not what I thought, but not bad enough to discard Photos might be incoming if I get lucky. First, the certain Romans: Valentinian II? [seller told III] AE4 (14x12mm) [DN V]ALENTINIANVS PF AVG/SALVS [REIP]VBLICA[E] Victory standing dragging something (I think) Theodosius I AE4 (12mm) [D]N THEODO-[SIVS PF AVG]/[GLORIA REI]PVBLICE Campgate, 2 towers (and apparently 5 levels) Julian II? [sold as Marcian] AE4 (12mm) [...]IANV-[...]/unreadable, someone standing A Tesorillo check of plausible rulers confirmed this is definitely not Marcian, and probably Julian II, type 117. Leo I AE4 (10mm - that's the second smallest coin in my entire collection, after the Peter I kopek) DN LEO[...]/monogram Apparently, coins of this type showing any legend are highly uncommon... hope I'm indeed that lucky. ...and an AE3 (16x14mm) front-facer, apparently of the Constantinopolis type (Tesorillo 6), that has the legend with the specific name almost entirely off flan (I can just about see lower sides of three lines after DN, which means it's probably not Honorius, but Arcadius vs. Theodosius will require knowledge of spacing... my bet's on Arcadius). Then the two Byzantines... Justin I pentanummium (13x12mm) DN IVSTINVS PP AV/Tyche? seated, reversed epsilon upper left This is kind of an upgrade over my previous example, in terms of having basically a full and entirely readable legend (OTOH, there's less detail on Tyche - if apparently only because of too much patina). ? pentanummium (16mm irregular) DN... [rest obscured by patina]/epsilon, cross right, all in circle No idea when is this one from (other than "Byzantine"). Can't find any images that even roughly fit this irregular 16mm monstrosity. And the coin that is apparently neither: AE18 (18x17mm) Bust? right in turreted crown/prow of galley [This was sold as "2nd century antoninianus", which it clearly isn't for several reasons; some googling led me to "Arados, Phoenicia", which appears at least slightly more likely.] ...I know these descriptions are probably not enough; but any ideas whether I did well or badly? Report this Post to the Staff

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january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5177 Posts	Posted 06/01/2014 11:35 am Quote: Quote: I said, "might be incoming if I get lucky". The thing we use to take photos is currently nowhere nearby (dad took it). Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 06/01/2014 12:35 pm Make sure you check to see if that is Leo and not the very rare Leontius (of questionable existance, so they need all the examples they can find). the Leontius monogram has the top bar of the E extended back to form a T. Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5177 Posts	Posted 06/01/2014 1:04 pm Quote: Make sure you check to see if that is Leo and not the very rare Leontius (of questionable existance, so they need all the examples they can find). the Leontius monogram has the top bar of the E extended back to form a T. It... could be. On the balance of probabilities, I suppose I should say "unlikely". More seriously: it does look a bit like there's a bar in that place (or at least I think I'm seeing it), but too much patina (the infamous Syrian Red) to really say either way (if anything, it looks like the middle bar is extended, whioh doesn't appear to be possible). Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 06/01/2014 4:38 pm Well, if you can post a photo, then we'll see. Dont touch the patina, it sounds possible to tell without disturbing it. It could also be one of Leos other monograms. Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5177 Posts	Posted 06/06/2014 5:44 pm Got some fortunate timing today, and snapped photos of some of the coins (not all, only what I felt were the most interesting ones). Hope there's enough for any conclusions (particularly on the "2nd century antoninianus"). Colors might be a bit off because of the weird photo style I used that seemed to produce best detail (e.g. the coins aren't actually greenish-tinted at any place where they aren't entirely green). ...I think I'll start out with the Leo monogram; photos of the other two will come later. Leo's weird "face" (and, apparently, about as much legend as it usually gets on these). The monogram side (you can see why I said that there's probably too much patina). Lying on a British sixpence, for scale (monogram side up, so there's another look on it). Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 06/06/2014 6:30 pm Alas, just a regular Leo from what I see, but non standard. I couldnt find an image of this particular design, which is curious. Perhaps more research would turn up another example. The coin could benefit from careful cleaning, but I'm not well versed enough in desert patina cleaning to help with that. Its worth establishing properly what the monogram is so that it can be listed. Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5177 Posts	Posted 06/06/2014 7:04 pm Okay, while I get comments on the Leo, I suppose I should post the other two... Irregular pentanummium, epsilon side Irregular pentanummium, portrait side "2nd century antoninianus", um, portrait side "2nd century antoninianus", um... non-portrait side Oh, and sorry for the wildly differing photo quality. Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4971 Posts	Posted 06/07/2014 10:44 am neat, while I was looking around I found this thread here of coins similar to your last one.... https://goccf.com/t/153509 any idea who the pentanumium belongs to? jusinian? just guessing. Report this Post to the Staff
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