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1999 Nickel Real?

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 Posted 06/08/2014  02:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just found this 1999 nickel in some change. It's smaller than a regular nickel, and much thinner but not as thin as a dime. It looks like it got cut small, no marks on the rim, all smooth. Does anyone know what may have happened to it or if is a fake? Left some pictures of it and in between a nickel and a dime. Really qurious.

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1999-Nickel-Real?

1999-Nickel-Real?

1999-Nickel-Real?

1999-Nickel-Real?

Any input would be very appreciated.
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 Posted 06/08/2014  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you weigh it? Give it a magnet test?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/08/2014  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I don't have a scale precise enough, but it is non-magnetic, and by size just in between a nickel and a penny. It is definitely heavier than a penny, closer to a nickel in weight.
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Looks to be the same diameter and width, but is tappered making it look smaller. I don't know how someone could do this without damaging the rest of the coin though.
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 Posted 06/08/2014  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I put the nickel on top of another nickel (the same date), this nickel is a little smaller at it's widest, about 20mm instead of 21.2, while a penny is 19.05, just a touch smaller.

The metal is definitely as heavy as the nickel, but it is much thinner.
About the thickness of a penny, but the metal is nickel or something non-metalic. I figure it weighs between 3.5 to 4.2g.

I've heard of pennies that were used by mistake to make a few nickels, but this is definitely not penny colored anywhere, it looks and feels more like the weight and feel of a nickel. I know nickels were made with 75% copper and 25% nickel that year.

What happened to it I'm very qurious about. I've tried looking for matching foreign planchettes but can't find anything. Does anyone know of a foreign planchette matching this? (about 20mm, 4g, and pennyish thick (give or take a tiny bit))?

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Looks like a regular nickel to me, it either has a partial collar error, or someone did it themselves. The pic of the height is deceiving as the full height of the nickel in question is not even with the bottom of the stick. Obv pic tells the story.
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After all of your very valued comments, I decided to try and measure the coin with the Celestron (Both a 1999 Regular Nickel and this coin).
All the measurements were taken 5-6 times to make sure I wasn't too far off.

Both coins came out at 19.4 at the widest flat. The other side was 18.5 mm for the odd one.
The regular thick was .21 and the other was .18mm

Does this still make it a partial collar? (It'll be my first find for this kind of coin and I'm still learning). I thank you for all your help.
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If it weighs the same as a regular nickel then I would say its authentic. It would be called a railroad rim.
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 Posted 06/11/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xanonite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time for the microscale purchase. Should be here within a week. I was using the popsicle stick trick for the different pennies but this needs a little better.
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